2018 fourth warmest year in continued warming trend, according to NASA, NOAA

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  1. Moonglow

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    Some can adjust others sublimate.
     
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    How do you know it's not Satan stoking the fires in Hell?
     
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    Oh good lord.

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    lol and Owned.
     
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    Indeed.. good lord. You need to go back over 5 million years back to a world that is not in any way relevant today. We don't have the eco system of 100 millions years ago, buddy.
     
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    Did the earth catch on fire when it was at 5000 PPM CO2? Did everything die?

    No, no it did not.

    When CO2 is measured against the entire history of the earth, is there a correlation? No, no there is not.

    Your "100 year history of climate change" is like saying we're in an ice age from looking at today's weather.

    Climate change is not a problem, no matter how much you want the government to take other people's money.
     
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    the last 5 million years... while you're point of reference going 500 million years back is not relevant. You're ignoring that. Your point of reference is when our ecosystem was just past the fase of being single cells organism. Bravo.
     
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    Yeah the earth's history isn't relevant.

    What's relevant is your 100 year chart where we started reading temps with sticks.

    Don't look at the whole picture, just look at my 100 year record of useless information that says you'll die if you don't pay me.
     
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    Oh and by the way, Mr. can't read a chart, you may want to read up on what life forms existed from the Triassic to the Tertiary.
     
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    That is not the time when we had 5000 PPM CO2, mr I can read a chart
     
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    Yeah it only averaged about 2500 PPM.
     
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    HAHAHAHA Summing up the Junk Science Global Warming Fundamentalists in one post.

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    My chart goes back 5 million years, mr I can read a chart. Your last reference is the arrival of mammals with that 2500 ppm. That's just "a bit" before man kind showed up, not to mention apes. It was a time SO far back, that Europe wasn't even attached to Asia. We dont got that eco system of back in the day, buddy.
     
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    So mammals didn't just survive in 2500 PPM CO2, they evolved due to it?

    What's that you say? Human beings were able to survive with stone tools in such an environment?

    But sure, we're all going to die at 400 PPM and there will be no food and it's armageddon and stuff.
     
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    What I am saying is that we do not have that ecosystem. There weren't even apes around. Europe wasn't even attached to Asia. India wasn't attached to Asia. We do not have the planet even.. that's how far you're needed to go back. lol
     
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    What does where Europe was attached have anything to do with climate and CO2 PPM?

    Nothing.

    You're grasping at straws.

    Oh and by the way, primates popped up 50-55 million years ago, when CO2 levels were around 1000 PPM.

    Try again.
     
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    What I say about that is...
    It was a time SO far back, that Europe wasn't even attached to Asia. We dont got that eco system of back in the day, not even the same planet... buddy.
     
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    Sure, you can say things that don't make any sense if you'd like.

    You could say "Europe wasn't even attached to Asia", as if that matters when it comes to CO2 and climate, but that would be stupid.

    You could say "It's not even the same planet", for example too, but that would be one of the stupidest things anyone could ever write.
     
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    When the Ural mountainrange like the Himalaya are at best a beach but probably still part of the sea, it does mean there are oceans and wind currents shaping an ecosystem that is no longer here today. And it does mean that land suitable to farm, with the climate back in the day, will probably be not farmable. I already sourced the Saharah is getting bigger. People who were able to live there, are moving away by the millions to escape an environment that can not sustain them.... Just like California is suffering from drought after drought. I sourced that tundra's are thawing,... seems obvious there aren't the Californian farmers don't live there. But I guess I needed to state the obvious.
     
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    Womp womp.

    There was 1000 PPM CO2 in the atmosphere, it was the same planet, and primates thrived in the environment so much, that they eventually became human beings.

    Your "we're at 400 PPM give us all your money or we're all going to die" nonsense is just that: nonsense.
     
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    Ah... from what was wrong with 5000 PPM,.. to what was wrong with 2500 PPM.... you now retreating to 1000 PPM. HA!

    As I noted, California is drying up, the tundra's are thawing, the Sahara is enlarging. Them are the facts of what we have caused by suddenly jump the CO2 from 300 to 400 PPM. That is the change in the ecosystem. And indeed, people by the millions are living where life is ending up to be not sustainable. You're not responding to this.
     
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    And we still say this again for the 42nd time. Even if everything you say is true we do not have the power to change it and you cannot prove we do.
     
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    Uh, no. I'm reading the same chart you are.

    Take your little finger and trace back 50-55 million years ago on the chart. That info is on the bottom there. What was the CO2 level?

    What's that you say? The Earth changes? Stuff moves around? That's never happened before.

    Let me let you in on a little clue, if you haven't been able to get it yet.

    The Earth, which in it's entire history has been at it's lowest CO2 concentrations ever, has gone from 7000 PPM to our current 400 PM and all points in between.

    The hottest global average it has ever been in the hundreds of millions of years that we are examining is about 72 degrees F. The coolest about 57 degrees F.

    The global average temperature going up 1.4 degrees F in the last 140 years is NOTHING.
     
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    We caused the mass amount of more CO2 to be put in the air. Dunno why we can't extract it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_capture_and_storage
     
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    I'm not contesting that.

    Yes 7000 PPM, when the world only consisted of single cell organisms. It seems you still are unable to grasp we do NOT have that ecosystem currently. I already told you plenty of times before... Sahara enlarging, California drying up, tundra thawing.... and people and animals living in places that will not be sustainable, while other places are... enter a shift of millions of people seeking refuge.
     

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