2024 Presidential drop out thread

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by Smedley, Aug 29, 2023.

  1. Smedley

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    hopefully they get it down to 2 or 3, the more candidates that run, the more they split the vote, and that favors Trump
     
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    I doubt it, all he needs to do is keep in the race, the weaker candidates will drop out and DeSantis will gain their votes
     
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    Completely irrelevant, as Trump is above 50% in many States, even with all the corrupt RNC-club splitter candidates.
     
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    primaries are what count, and we will see
     
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    And then you lose the general election to Biden or Newsom. :mad:

    But we have already covered this issue in the past. :deadhorse:

    You would rather have four more years of a really bad president than four years of a decent president because you think that Trump is the best thing since Abraham Lincoln.

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    Sadly he's more like Andrew Johnson, stubborn and in his second term, effective.

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    Right, and we just plain disagree on it. You say that Trump will lose the general, meanwhile I say that anyone else other than Trump will lose the general.

    Nah, I'd rather have four more years of a pro-commoner nationalist president (Trump) instead of four more years of a pro-elitist globalist president (other candidates).
     
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    Yep, everybody else sucks in your opinion, and that is very narrow minded.

    I wish you could have been down here in Florida during the current crisis. DeSantis is a much better crisis manager than a debater. He's not even my first choice in the primary, but he's a hell of lot more electable than Trump, who can't win, no matter what. Trump can't even beat Biden, and I'm sure by then that we will know that there was quid pro quo because between the Ukrainian Energy Company and Biden's hold of a $1 billion in U.S. taxpayer money. Biden was stupid and cocky. Now he's senile, but the American people will vote for him because he isn't Trump, just like it was 2020.
     
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    The closest to a 2nd "good" candidate on the Republican side is Ramaswamy, but I don't trust him. The other candidates are all known globalists and/or directly funded/supported by known globalists. That's a hard no for having any chance at getting my vote.

    DeSantis is currently completely ignoring the insurance crisis in FL... so I say meh to that.

    Nope. Trump is the ONLY Republican candidate who even has any sort of a chance at winning in 2024. This is for two reasons:

    1) The "Trump or bust" vote. Its size is at least 10 million strong at very conservative estimates... probably more like 20 million strong (maybe even more). This includes people who will "write in Trump ", people who will "sit out", and even people who will "vote for another party's nominee instead". Those are all votes that any Republican nominee other than Trump would NOT be receiving. --- In comparison, the "never-Trump" vote share is MUUUUUUUUCH smaller, ergo Trump is the nominee with the best chance at winning.

    2) The "Rust Belt" States. Trump is the only Republican candidate since Reagan to perform strongly in such states. He won WI, MI, and PA in 2016, along with OH and IA, and MN was even close, and then he had to have those states (and more) frauded away from him in 2020 in order to be removed from office. This can be seen in looking at state results maps from Reagan until present day.

    WI, for example, has a very distinctly different county by county results map for "Ronald Reagan, Ron Johnson, Donald Trump" as opposed to "[insert any Bush here], Leah Vukmir, Mitt Romney". IOW, nationalist populist R's win in WI and globalist professionally-Republican R's lose in WI. That sentiment rings true throughout the other rust belt states. Without Trump on the ballot, R's lose in WI, MI, PA, MN, and probably even in OH and IA (believe it or not). FL would even be close, if not lost. GA and AZ would be blue as well. Those are all states that Trump wins if he's the nominee, except for probably MN, but that one would even be in play.

    Nope. See above.
     
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    Trump will not win any of those states if the Democrat voting rules are in place. Pennsylvania voted for a Democrat with a dead brain over a medical doctor who got Trump's kiss of death endorsement. Michigan re-elected Witmer for Governor after her antics during Covid.

    A Republican winning any presidential election is a longshot. When you have a candidate who is hated by over 50% of the voters, you have no chance. Yes, Trump will get 45% of the vote come hell or high water. He won't get any more, and he won't get enough in the right states to win the election in the Electoral College.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Anyway, back to the thread, my guess is that more complete no names are going to drop out next. Will (has anyone) Hurd (of me)?? That former governor of whatever state?? That other former (current?) governor of whatever state?
     
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    I'll take that bet. I assume by "the finals" you mean the nominating convention?
     
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    Yes, I can't see DeSantis dropping out of the race until almost before the convention, if then.

    He might make a statement for the convention that, "In the name of party unity, I am throwing my support to Donald Trump."

    His goal, of course will be to become the frontrunner in 2028, if there is any country left by then.
     
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    Any candidate that can appeal to the middle voter will be gone in due course. Trump got the lock on the nomination, it's an almost sure bet.
     
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    He is already imploding.

    Many Republicans are suddenly "concerned" since Scott is (*gasp*) single. Of course, this leads to suspicion that he is getting some hot male booty on the downlow, but they don't want to say it. Or they are part of the VERY large rabidly racist faction of this once honorable GOP and are just using this as a wedge because they don't want to vote for a black guy. Or both.

    Actually, my money is on Nikki Haley going to the end and being a viable option to Trump once he is paraded around in his nice orange jumpsuit and taking telephone calls with actual cord-telephones, behind a plexiglass screen, with big burly guards watching on and such.
     
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    God forbid, multiple hot male booty on the DL :).
     
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    Close your eyes and for G-dssakes, think of the children!!!!
     
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    Well you have to admit, it's pretty weird that BOTH South Carolina senators are north of 50 and are unmarried. As a voter, I prefer a married man since I make assumptions about stability based on that.

    As for Haley, she might make it to the end of the primary process but she's not going to be seen as a viable option. She won't be the nominee.
     

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