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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I enjoy how you need to run from facts. It's hilarious.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Please explain how your addendum impacts the following documented claims:

    “We have it totally under control. ... It’s going to be just fine.”
    "We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are getting better!
    They're all getting better!"
    “And again, when you have 15 people,
    and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero!"
    “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear!”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/17/how-trump-shifted-his-tone-on-coronavirus-134246

    “Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China.
    He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus...

    Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads
    what will be a very successful operation."
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news...oronavirus-outbreak-as-death-toll-passes-600/
     
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    That was not what I was addressing, as well you know.

    If it wasn't clear, you only provided stats that for your narrative, not the complete numbers. Numbers are dropping.
     
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    For now.
     
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    Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine.

    I prefer half full. The numbers are dropping.
     
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    In my area (two SMALL cities in a large county) the local all things Democrat all the time newspaper in the beginning daily reported the number of cases in each on the front page, the total numbers have remained so ridiculously low they dropped that and began to send out a daily "compliance" Gestapo to local stores to recount how many people are wearing masks and social distancing. As many people don't wear masks as do (I do) and yet our numbers have remained so low it's become a running joke in conversations. Go figure.
     
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    Your Trump rants are what’s hilarious . I enjoy watching your head explode
     
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    I promise I will not enter your home or space where you have self isolated unless invited.

    If you leave your isolated space you will be contributing to the spread of the virus, mask or not.
     
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    Winter is coming.
     
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    You really can't confront the multiple fraudulent, dismissive statements regarding covid-19 as it was allowed to spread in the US and make it the preeminent hot spot among all advanced nations, are you?

    “We have it totally under control. ... It’s going to be just fine.”
    "We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are getting better!
    They're all getting better!"
    “And again, when you have 15 people,
    and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero!"

    “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear!”

    “Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China.
    He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus...

    Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads
    what will be a very successful operation."

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news...oronavirus-outbreak-as-death-toll-passes-600/
     
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    No problem ... if you really want to live in your moronic "lie and I believe every BS bubble" then go for it ... but people like you are commonly referred to as being covidiots these days. Why? Because ignoring, denying and being immune to unliked facts about COVID-19 are called to be this way!

    Have a nice day!
     
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    give confidence and hope or project doom and gloom? Regardless of what he did, your agenda would have you bashing either way.

    Australia did all that you like, kill the economy, lock down, mask up, rat out non mask wearers. All of the things adored by statists yet lockdown 2.0

    If you are scared, then please stay home and mask up.
     
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    when I parachute from an airplane I accept the risk. When I dive from a cliff into the water again, I accept the risk. When I hop aboard a bus or train, again, I accept the risk. If mean old virus is out there, and one wishes to go out an and about, then accept the risk.

    But, if you wash your hands and don't pick your nose or touch your eyes, you'll probably be just fine.
     
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    Excellent... Thank you for your kind invitation to join you, but I'm good where I am... Irrelevant/ridiculous ad hominem... Because COVIDupes become angry and frantic when their absurd & destructive false narratives are challenged, and often revert to their 2 year old selves - final answer. :) Ironic - but COVIDupes gotta COVIDupe!
     
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    Of those 1000 a day -- 80% are over 80 - infirmed - and ready to go at a moments notice. Take those out of the equation and what are your numbers - and what do the stats look like ?

    We also have another pandemic coinciding with COVID - a pandemic of hospitals and doctors recording deaths from causes other than Covid - as Covid.
     
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    How observant of you.

    Since you seem so precognizant, care to share the future stats?
     
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    If you bothered to read anything I've posted, I've already made my statement. Trump could have done better with those statements. His actions were timely, and were not the cause of the supposed 'preeminent hot spot' you claim.

    So, if Trump had acted in the manner you would deem appropriate (which I highly doubt you could qualify) what would be the infection rate? Death rate? Please do tell, the nation wants to know.

    Anything else you care to think you have a false superior position on?
     
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    There are many running jokes in my part of Florida. The most common thread is the number of people who signed up for testing, showed up for the test but grew impatient with the long wait times, went back home, and 10 days later received notification of positive results when THEY WERE NEVER TESTED.

    It's amazing. People shake their heads. That this "crisis" is some sort of scam is a widely held view around here.

    Many people have been infected but very few have died. In a perverse way, it is very much a running joke. The wheels have come off the narrative on the local level.
     
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    You got precog from that Tom Cruise movie, didn't you. Nothing wrong with that, it was just a surprise.

    The estimate I like is 300K for the year. If you play it safe, you can say 250K. I don't much care, either way it's way too many.

    Neither includes that upward adjustment that happens after the year is over.
     
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    No, I didn't get anything I've said from a Tom Cruise movie, how strange. I've known that particular word (and many more) for more than 30 years.

    So, according to your guesstimate, 300,000 for the year, dead? Current stats:

    United States cases
    Updated Aug 20 at 1:03 PM local
    Confirmed 5,605,858 +34,018
    Deaths 174,963 +984
    Recovered 2,852,221

    So with 174,963 deaths in 8 months (for all intents and purposes) that's an average of 21,870 per month. 4 months left in the year: 87,481 more deaths. 262,444 for the 12 month period on a straight math basis.

    But, with mask mandates and social distancing, the number should continue to drop. People will not be going to beaches in droves, or other tourist destinations, usually around end of September, travel slows down. Testing has increased, albeit a high percentage of false positive/negatives. And most high risk people are taking extra precautions and Cuomo won't be sending sick Seniors into nursing homes/virus incubators, so that will account for something.

    The numbers are dropping, and with periodic exceptions, I believe will continue to drop.
     
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    Winter is coming.

    People will be inside, windows will close. That's why the flu spreads in winter, and it's why some experts expect a surge in the death rate because having the two together will likely kill people the disease alone wouldn't kill.

    As I stated, either way, it's way, way, way too many people killed. And most didn't have to die, if we had followed medical advice the way most countries did.
     

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