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6% number is not debunked

Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by Josephwalker, Oct 6, 2020.

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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    If you were already bleeding and had a car accident because of blood loss, what killed you?
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    LOL. Wonders of the ages, It's not a flu... Thanks for single handedly attempting to rewrite history....
     
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    I'm not interested in the NYT analysis. The only link you gave I'm interested in is the CDC link. Can you direct me to where it states there are 200,000 more deaths this year than last year and to where it compares that to year to year rise in death counts historically in America?
     
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    Did your family member have existing lung issues before Covid?

    If you now claim they did...why did you fail to mention it before...
     
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    Actually, they were preexisting and long standing. But of course you didn't know that, but you chose to comment anyway. helpful as always... LOL
     
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    Honestly I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Somewhere between 6% and 100% but I'm not sure we will ever know the real number.
     
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    They prove methodology
     
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    As written above, yes. It wasn't relevant to the hospital's behavior was it?
     
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    Why would I do that? Did you read my post? Go back through it if you need to.
     
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    If he actually HAD previous lung issues...you would have mentioned it. The fact that you didn't...shows that he did not...the lung issues were CAUSED by the virus
     
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    Should we really care if the article is deigned to fear monger? And since we also have so much evidence that the count has been vastly overcomunted, this editorial doesn't seem to be able to provide actual evidence or data that their conclusions are remotely reasonable. So why did you trot it out? The logic strains in their analysis contain lots of "mights" or "could bes".. Which, frankly should have stopped your from presenting it as factual. So, why did you?
     
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    I’m sorry, I’m not sure I understand your meaning? What is between 6% and 100%? Single factor deaths? Deaths where there was a comorbidity?
     
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    How so?
     
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    And oh yea...Covid causes lung scarring...so even if you had "lung issues" previously to getting Covid (that wouldn't kill you) once you get Covid...those lung issues CAN kill you much more easily

    And analyzing excess deaths bears that out
     
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    How was this family members outlook? Were they expected to die any day now, or would they have been expected to live longer sans COVID?
     
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    I'm looking for truth and facts and I'll add this to my previous response. Death rate in the US goes up every year over the last decade.



    https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate
     
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    At this point, all you're doing now is being annoying. I have written this on this forum prior to this, because it has come up before. Why do you allow your fear to effect how you behave? Your inability to separate your fear from being abusive is evident now. So facts be damned, you'd rather attack someone because their set of facts contradicts your fear. Thats a stark reality that you now must come to grips with.
     
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    The only evidence you’ve supplied to suggest an over count was co-morbidities, but I’ve already explained why that isn’t valid. What else you got?
     
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    You mean zero evidence? A misinterpreted CDC report?

    They used CDC data for previous deaths compared to current data
     
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    Yea...facts and accuracy can be SO annoying
     
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    RealCovid death count. Somewhere between 200,000 and 6% of 200,000
     
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    Seems obvious.
     
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    The man was in ill health. At his age, it is a crap shoot they get out of bed on any given day. But thanks for the concern. Many, in my family pointed to the isolation, and his fear while being isolated and separated from familiar things. Folks die from less. Think about that experience. Alone, frightened, unable to see or interact with family or familiar things, being treated like an alien because of the infection That's the experience of being "treated" these days in a hospital. Answer this for me. If it was your relative, do you just expect them to endure and not die?
     
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    I see, well RealCovid (TM?) death count includes people who died with co-morbidities that would not have died otherwise. And since we are learning more about the disease everyday, sadly I think we will understand more ways in which it causes harm and the death count will go up even further.
     
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