74% of small businesses will fire workers, cut hours under Obamacare

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    We only have Obama and the Democrats to thank for this. They simply had to turn U.S. Health care upside down. They obviously do not care if you have a job, part time or otherwise. They don't care if your struggling getting along on unemployment and food stamps when all ya really want is a good job. Remember THEY DON'T CARE, as long as they get us on the road to Government run health care. You are merely a bump in the road, one that can be silenced rather easily by either the IRS or the NSA. They know all about you, speak up and everyone else will too. That's why they've been collecting all that data, after all they couldn't even stop the Boston Bombers with it. Once they get access to your personal private medical records, look out. Hey Professor Peabody, does your employer know about your hypertension or how close to Diabetes you really are? Shut up or a little birdie just might tell them.

    So as you get your layoff notice, just remember this is a result of the Democrats having power in Congress and the White House. Help us rid DC of as many of them as possible come Nov 2014. By that time you will have already gotten a big fat load of Obama Care.
     
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    Oh well then be prepared to pay more taxes.
     
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    Only if stupid people put Democrats back in office in Nov 2014.
     
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    Deal with it. Either living wages are paid or everyones taxes go up.
     
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    Those jobs that can't sustain Obama care aren't jobs worthy of American's in the first place, they are jobs that pay low with no benefits.

    These people will have better lives on welfare, and get free health care from the government until the businesses can provide jobs to Americans that pay for their health care.
     
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    in a meeting with my accountant and lawyer they both advised me to be prepared to run two crews one work mon thru wes and the other thurs thru sat..and restrict the hours to 8 hours with no overtime..need to think about it before i decide
     
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    Please, I hope the Democrats jack up taxes. It will be the end of their party.
     
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    lol If you say so.
     
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    Do you really believe that this country will be better with people sitting at home, not working and living on welfare? If you kill business by making it too costly to operate then these jobs will not come back. Take the Manufacturing Industry as an example. If they can't manufacture their products cheaply enough, they can not sell at a price that customers are willing to pay. If their employment costs are raised, they will have to raise prices to compensate for it. If that causes their prices to be too high, then they will end up out of business. So, how do they avoid the increase in costs? Simple, cut employees or cut hours so that they do not have to cover the increases.

    The fact is that Obamacare is a direct and intentional attack on business and the middle class.
     
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    The larger businesses will simply get the better employees since they'll offer better working conditions or the employees will simply organize under the banner of a union and bargain for their benefits :)
     
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    So the left is for large corporations monopolies. With large CEO budgets and well paid lobbyist. I learn something everyday.
     
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    It's not killing business by forcing them to pay for their employees health care, its making them more efficient in their business models.

    Employers have been leeching off the laws to make more profits, by cutting costs wherever they can and this usually burdens the lower income earners the most.

    Minimum wage jobs with no health care shouldn't be around any longer, and if the transition leaves these people on welfare than that is the best option until employers are able to create jobs with better pay and benefits.
     
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    You do have a dream. Since there is an over abundance of workers companies can "weed out" prospective employees that have been in a Union already. So your post is just that.....a dream.
     
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    Congratulations; you now have your bachelors degree.
     
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    All these great union health plans will fall away. To never be seen again. These union guys don't realize that the great plans will be giving a value of worth and then add to that union employees wages. To be counted as income. So these union guys will have to pay higher taxes based on this new salary figures. So unions will pay higher taxes. Lol suckers
     
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    Unfortunately for you that is not true. You get what you pay for in this world; you pay your employees zilch and you get zilch back from them. You pay more and offer better benefits you'll attract better employees and get a greater return on your investment. Personally, I'd organize and bargain for my benefits and money. That way there are guarantees that the company will have to honor.
     
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    So now without smaller companies keeping the large corps honest, what will stop them from price fixing?
     
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    Remind me you said that the next time your standing in line for a loaf of bread or a roll of toilet, because that is what redistribution of wealth leads.
     
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    The consumers. They control everything; if they don't buy, they have the companies eating out of their hands in due order.

    The Executives of major corporations are akin to whores; they'll stab each other in the back to do better then their competitors regardless. Plus price fixing is illegal, just will keep the Justice Department on their toes. Its not doom and gloom as some would paint it.
     
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    Not with lazy ass Union workers. It's been my experience that the biggest losers gravitate towards Union shops because the Union will protect their lazy butts.
     
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    You fell to see the fact that its called a monopoly for a reason.
     
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    That's not been my experience and i've worked union for my entire working career. My union doesn't "protect" lazy workers; we have a legal obligation to represent workers as the case may be. Remember, if they are lazy, don't blame the union, blame the company for hiring them in the first place; the unions get stuck representing them. Management wasn't doing its job in the first place.
     
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    Liberals always talk about taxing the super rich.... but when it comes down to it their policies effect small businessmen FAR more than they do the rich. I'm a small business owner. I can personally tell you that the future is bleak. I could handle the market. I've handled the upps and downs of the market for a long time. We can survive an economic downturn. What we cannot survive is the Democrat party. Their regulations serve only one purpose.... Make the rich richer.

    If you are super wealthy what do you care if your taxes go up 3%? Not that much if the government is still working in your favor. The truth about regulation is that big businesses can pay the super expensive consultants needed to comply but the little guys can't. Whatever taxes go up are meaningless next to clearing the competition. Nobody realizes that in a lot of ways small business is superior to big. We can do it faster, cheaper, and better, The one thing we can't do is run our trade AS WELL as basically becoming full time lawyers. Have you seen a regulatory compliance book for any specific trade? You are looking at thousands of pages of Sub section C title A statute B under the 1987 US commerce clause lol. It's a foreign language.

    I've already had to downsize because of the economy. From what I've been told there is absolutely no way for me to stay in business when this thing hits. It's not just the employer mandate. That's a small percentage of the damage done by this bill. There are thousands of pages of tax law included. This will literally change the way I do business. I will have to employ a full time secretary JUST to comply with the paperwork. If that person makes a mistake I could be looking at thousands in fines. It's just not worth it. I.... like many small businessmen.... will go work for one of the big companies in my field rather than deal with this. That is EXACTLY what the Democrats want. The less companies there are the easier it is to keep track of them. THEY more than anyone (to include their allies in the Republican party) are responsible for the wealth inequality in America. They have paved the road to tyranny on the dreams of social justice. The more power the government has.... the more inequality will exist in society.
     
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    " 74% of small businesses will fire workers, cut hours under Obamacare"

    was that meant to be a factual statement?

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    universal health care or at the very least a public option would be in the best interest of small business, but instead we got the conservatives individual mandate

    democrats believe mega corporation should be treated like mini governments... not small business

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  25. Professor Peabody

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    In other words your Union represents lazy ass workers no matter what. I hear yal Push the blame on others. That's the reason Union workers will play hell finding a job in the new "normal" Obamanomics economy. There are just too many workers to choose from to hire one of those.
     

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