80 percent of Canadians back Israel boycott

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  1. cerberus

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    Yes, for two reasons - 1 Hamas intimidates them into voting for them, and 2 The 'poor bloody Palestinians' know what will happen to them if they don't. Oh, and you ought to consider yourself very lucky that YOU don't have to travel on your so-called 'Occupied Territory bus', because there might well be an IED under your seat.
     
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    Sounds like you think the Israelis should offer themselves up for annihilation so the Palestinians can have their country. I wonder if you'd be so eager if you were an Israeli yourself?
     
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    The poll could be slightly biased because it was commissioned by a pro-Palestinian group called Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East (CJPME), which criticised the Canadian government for not condemning the Israeli government's plan to expand its settlements. In early 2016, the Canadian Parliament voted overwhelmingly in favour of condemning the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement, which may be more in line with public opinions in Canada.
     
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    Complying with International Law and ceasing their policy of Ethnic Cleansing is not "Israelis offering themselves up for annihilation" nor do I have any intention of being a foreign Colonist squatting on someone else's recently invaded land.
    I began serving my country in the 1960s and continue to look out for its best interests which are not served by subsidizing a criminal & parasitic Zionist Colony far, far away or harboring traitorous Zionist "Israel Firsters"

    If your first loyalty is to a foreign Zionist Colony then you don't belong on American soil preying on American coffers.
     
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    Just as you can't judge a book by its cover, you can't dismiss a source just because it has a "funny looking name" (to you) & you've never heard of it before. Expand you horizons, my friend
     
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    I'm not an American, I'm a Brit living in England. I also don't live in the past when Zionism was the order of the day, I live in the present, and my sympathies are with Israeli civilians and their right to a peaceful life, but which is being plagued by the terrorists of Hamas.
     
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    Who do you represent?
     
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    Please provide some statistics for what is possibly the most moronic delusion I've read in quite some time
     
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    I concur with the vast number of LOYAL Americans who are sick of bankrolling a back-stabbing & parasitic Zionist Colony of Ethnic Cleansers:

    “81% of Americans Oppose $38 Billion Pledge to Israel”
    http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2016/09/19/81-americans-oppose-38-billion-pledge-israel/


    EXCERPT “A solid majority of Americans would redirect $38 billion the Obama Administration pledged to Israel toward other priorities.
    An IRmep poll fielded by Google Consumer Surveys reveals 80.8 percent of the US adult Internet user population says they would redirect the proposed spending toward other priorities.

    - Caring for veterans (20.7 percent) was their top priority, followed by

    - education spending (20.1 percent) and

    - paying down the national debt (19.3 percent).

    - Rebuilding US infrastructure was favored by 14.9 percent, while

    - funding a Middle East peace plan received 5.8 percent of support.

    - Only 16.8 percent said the $38 billion of pledged foreign aid should be spent on Israel.”

    CONTINUED
     
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    I'm afraid you've overlooked the simple reality that the Palestinian Arabs were in Palestine long before the invasion of FOREIGN Zionist Terrorist gangs who continue to massacre, persecute & steal from Palestine's native residents.
    Obviously, my sympathies are with the Occupied, not the brutal & ruthless Zionist Occupiers who continue to pursue the expansionist, Zionist "Greater Israel" agenda (please see Oded Yinon Plan) through their "Settlements".

    The vast number of Israelis do not want Peace, they simply prefer land theft over a Peaceful resolution[1], [2]

    Under the British McMahon Agreement, the Arabs were promised all of Palestine if they fought with the British against the Ottoman Turks.
    They fulfilled their part of the obligation & their reward was abrogated via Zionist Machinations in London which led to the later Balfour Agreement.



    [1] “New construction plans prove Israel doesn’t want peace”
    http://www.ampalestine.org/newsroom/new-construction-plans-prove-israel-doesn’t-want-peace

    EXCERPTIn blatant violation of UN Resolution 242, which prohibits the acquisition of land through war and calls for the immediate withdrawal of Israel from all occupied territories, Israel continues to colonize the West Bank and East Jerusalem. It uses the illegal settlements as the justification for the illegal annexation of Palestinian land into Israel.”CONTINUED


    [2] "Israel Doesn't Want Peace"
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-doesn-t-want-peace-1.217576

    EXCERPT "Until recently, it was still possible to accept the Israeli refrain that "there is no partner" for peace and that "the time isn't right" to deal with our enemies. Today, the new reality before our eyes leaves no room for doubt and the tired refrain that "Israel supports peace" has been left shattered.

    The world has been turned upside down and it is Israel that stands at the forefront of refusal. The policy of refusal of a select few, a vanguard of the extreme, has now become the official policy of Jerusalem."CONTINUED
     
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    The Palestinian resistance has the same rights to remove invaders of its country that the French resistance had in removing the Nazis. There shouldn't be any ' occupied Territory buses ' in Palestine- and there won't be in future, thanks to worldwide support for Palestinian rights and worldwide condemnation of neoZionist criminality.
    Hamas, incidentally, manages a range of social support programs to counter the brutality of the Israel bombardments and blockade. Hamas was elected because it fought for freedom. Bear in mind Mandela and the ANC.

    Your ' two reasons' by the way are the same fallacious reason.
     
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    If only you knew it, Israel is an essential stabilising force in the region: without Israel to hate (Arabs always have to hate - it seems to be in their DNA) they'd all be hating each other, and the region would be aflame in no time.
     
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    Really ? I haven't noticed any White House bans on Jews travelling.
     
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    And their way of doing so is to rain down HE onto civilians, and leave IEDs on school buses and in bars crowded with youngsters is it. Are you for effing real????
     
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    Jews are free to go anywhere they like- and they do. It was Zionism which invented the monstrous plan to concentrate them all in one place after the ethnic cleansing of Palestine's indigenous and majority Arab population. More Jews choose to live outside of Israel than choose to live there under the insane neoZionist regime.
     
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    The Hamas policy of killing Israelis inside Israel as a response to Israel killing Palestinians inside Palestine was effective in bringing the world's attention to Israel's brutal and illegal activities. However, that policy was dropped - because it simply aped the actions of the hated occupiers. As for resisting the invasion INSIDE Palestine- well, you'd have to ' get real ' yourself if you think that what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander. All states have a legal right to resist invasion. You'd clearly like to take that right away. Good luck with that. If you invaded MY country I'd blow your ass through the clouds if you were sat in a bus or on the dunny.

    Incidentally, Israel has killed many times more Palestinians ' in classrooms and on buses ' than the other way around. You seem to think that's OK just because Israel has a ' Jewish ' majority and an airforce. Get real.
     
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    Yes, but that was done in retaliation? :rolleyes: You think Israel should just sit back supinely and wait to be annihilated then? Is it Israel's fault if the Hamas cowards hide behind the skirts of women and children by firing rockets from schools and hospitals? FFS why am I needing to point this out?
     
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    Glad to see we have something in common. Now that we have a better idea of what Mohammed really stood for, Many of us in the US would like to do that.
     
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    Really ? How many Israelis did Hamas kill this year ? On the other hand, how many Palestinians did neoZionists kill ?
    You really should come to terms with the fact that it is neoZionism which corrupts and bloodies the Middle East.
     
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    The neoZionists have no qualms about killing women and children in their houses, schools or hospitals- so there's no advantage to ' hiding ' behind women , children or humanitarian institutions. On the other hand, hiding behind Palestinians is common practice for the Israeli military- so common that the Israeli courts had to issue a ban on it. So from where do you get your misleading information ? I'm interested in locating hasbara sources.
     
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    So if the number of casualties on both sides was equal, you'd have no problem with that? With such a superficially biased argument as that, and an agenda-driven one unless I'm much mistaken, I'm done here!
     
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    I don't have a clue as to what ' Mohammed really stood for ' -so I can safely leave your comment to those that do.
     
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    Nah- you just know that Israel is slaughtering Palestinians at a much faster rate and you have no justification for it which fits the Zionist rhetoric. I can understand that. It's why the neoZionists will lose. Ordinary people are fundamentally decent and fascists are not.
     
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    There's only one TRUE God. He's worked miracles in my life.

    Your construed understanding of our relationship is ignorant at best.
     
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    Faith can be a great healer. Claiming access to the preferences of gods is taking faith a step or two too far.

    Everybody should be free to develop or terminate their ' relationships ' with their gods as they see fit. The problem arises when they insist upon telling everybody else about it.
    Keep it private- Alaikum salaam.
     

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