I started this topic because many of the topics being discussed in this section of the forum are based on fact and not conspiracy theory. It has long been my contention that 9/11 should have its own independent topic and not automatically be relegated to the "conspiracy section" of any forum because for one, it isn't all conspiracy theory and for two, it is one of the most defining events of our generation and should have its own section. Once again as always with any topic I am responsible for, I ask posters to discuss the subject intelligently and especially in an adult manner (which means leave out the ridiculing and insults). The above is possibly the root of many claims by Official Conspiracy Theory (OCT) defenders that anything that questions or contradicts the OCT is a "conspiracy theory". It is alleged that the term "conspiracy theory" was weaponized by the CIA in the wake of the JFK assassination to ridicule and stifle any dissent or discussion aside from the official claims. It is an old government propaganda tactic as eloquently explained: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” - Joseph Goebbels Examples of 9/11 Conspiracy Theory: 1. The 9/11 Commission Report in its entirety. 2. The claim that 9/11 was an inside job. 3. The claim that Al Qaeda or Mossad were responsible for 9/11. 4. The claim that 19 Arab hijackers armed with box cutters caused 4 planes to destroy 3 targets. Examples of 9/11 Fact: 1. Several buildings in lower Manhattan were totally destroyed and the Pentagon was severely damaged on 9/11. 2. Vice President Cheney asked Senator Tom Daschle not to investigate 9/11 on multiple occasions. 3. President George Bush did nothing after being told a plane crashed into the WTC tower. 4. Tons of 9/11 physical evidence were quickly carted away prior to any investigation. 5. Philip Zelikow claimed that most if not all of the 9/11 Commission Report relied on torture testimony Examples of neither 9/11 Fact nor 9/11 Conspiracy Theory: 1. All the NIST 9/11 reports. 2. The twin towers and WTC7 were controlled demolished on 9/11 (as a collapse theory). 3. WTC7 collapsed strictly as a result of fire. 4. The twin towers collapsed as a result of planes, damage and fire. The above are just some very basic examples for posters to understand the difference between the 3 categories above. It is not set in stone, so please post your opinions as to what you believe is 9/11 fact, theory, conspiracy theory or none of the 3. Thank you.