9 Things Truthers can NEVER explain

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1. Who put the thermite or explosives into WTC 1, 2, and 7?

    2. When were the explosives/thermite installed?

    3. How did the demolition teams get around WTC Security?

    4. Who paid the demolition teams to do this?

    5. Why would NYPD/FDNY personnel take part in the destruction of WTC 7?

    6. Why would FDNY/NYPD personnel murder hundreds of their own people?

    7. Who really piloted the planes, if not the Al Qaeda hijackers?

    8. Why did Al Qaeda keep taking credit for 9-11 if they didn't do it?

    9. Why do Muslim extremists celebrate 9-11 if they didn't do it?
     
  2. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    We never pretended to have answers to such questions. Though 2 and 3 can be easily answered.
     
  3. Jango

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    Regarding #3 - if there was a controlled demolition, which I don't believe there was, getting around security would be a piece of cake for the people there to plant whatever it was they supposedly planted. Look at the Freedom Tower in recent months. Their security was violated by a teenager & some base jumpers. People on a tightly controlled clandestine mission would have their way with place.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    but how would they be able to bring in all that thermite/explosives?

    :)
     
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    EggKiller Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I saw a claim that the concrete should not have been pulverized by the fall so explosives must have been used. Of course for that to be true almost every square yard of flooring would need to have been rigged. Absolute insanity.
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    when you demand Truthers come up with their own ideas of how 9-11 was done, that's when they really fall apart.

    :)
     
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    Your right but I enjoy watching my dog chase his tail too. Gotta take our humor where we find it these days.
     
  8. Jango

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    Duffel bags?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Chances are there would be more people involved than A few kids sneaking in.
     
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    Prison cakes and body orifices.
     
  11. l4zarus

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    You mean these questions?

    2. When were the explosives/thermite installed?

    3. How did the demolition teams get around WTC Security?


    Okay, I'm listening. Answer them.
     
  12. Jango

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    You're right, I was just demonstrating that security can & has been breached.

    A couple fireteams (3-4 guys per team) could get the job done.
     
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    BigGulps ! They snuck in thousand of Big Gulps loaded with explosives ! They were on sale that week at 7-11 . This is also why Mayor Bloomberg was trying to outlaw large soft drinks in NYC.
     
  14. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yeah? then answer them!!

    2. When were the explosives/thermite installed?

    3. How did the demolition teams get around WTC Security?


    I expect details & evidence.
     
  15. Vlad Ivx

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    2. At any time they liked. Can't tell you for sure. Anything like the months or weeks before.

    3. Special teams sent by the best funded intelligence agencies in the world would have no trouble. They are professionals. You need to work your imagination a bit. They could have been infiltrated as legitimate maintenance employees. They afford everything. But the main questions are yet to come:

    Can you and l4zarus imagine a filthy looking sealed off metal container on wheels looking like an ordinary garbage trolley? Would you go near it to see what's inside? Can you imagine some sealed off ordinary paint barrels on which it spells 'FLAMABLE'? Would you as an employee of a WTC tenant bring a saw to work just to open them and paint your clothes or to admire some garbage?

    Do you actually know that in the weeks before 9/11 the Trade Center had its most extensive renovation of the elevator systems in its entire history?

    How did they go past security? It was in SIlverstein's best interest to see the buildings gone. He had them insured. They were obsolete, expensive to maintain, taking up the space of very valuable real estate but that's another story.


    Do you know that there were several requests by the Port Authority throughout the 1990s to demolish the WTCs formally? Do you? For years they had been complaining publicly that the towers lose much more than they earn. The Port Authority was in charge of the Towers' security. And you ask me how they got past security...
     
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    Sci-Fi and Hollywood movies, got it. Thanks for clearing that up. I bet you get all your facts from watching Bourne Identity right?
     
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    It helps to have big brother 'helping out' and in charge on security (literally, in this case, the President's brother) in place to 'oversee' that 'things' go as planned. Another one of those 'coincidences' that we all were supposed to swallow. There are endless such things we are required to overlook to believe this nonsense.
     
  18. Vlad Ivx

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    I never said anything about the president's brother. Are you talking by yourself? :razz: And the Port Authority had requested approval for demolition many times. You should know that. But they had trouble getting permission because of environmental issues that involved the asbestos.
     
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    Sci-Fi? Is what I said physically impossible? As long as it's not physically impossible, you can't rule it out. The laws of probability impose that line of thought.
     
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    Avoiding security for a base jump is one thing.

    Avoiding security to plant exposives is much more difficult bordering on impossible. It would have required large teams of demo experts with TONS of explosives and related gear such as detonatpors etc.. It also would have required weeks or months to position and arm the charges.

    Not doable while avoiding security and maintaining opsec
     
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    I disagree. Highly trained (like tens of millions of dollars worth) men, like special forces or spies, could subvert security in the WTC at their leisure. Never, ever, underestimate the men who've become special operators.

    Regarding explosives - why would they need a "TON" of it if what NIST concluded is correct I.e. 1 specific failure point caused global collapse.

    IF 9/11 was an inside job, access to structural blueprints would give the demolition team the ability to locate the Achilles' heel.
     
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    Even special forces professionals have their limits they canot turn invisible.

    Bringing down a building that size would simply have required tons of explosives no building is brought down with small amounts of explosives at an achilles heel. These are not ridicukous movie structires olike in themummy where one lever makes it all collapse.
     
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    Nanotechnology negates the need for 'tons' of traditional explosives to accomplish their tasks at hand (with Marvin Bush guiding them).
     
  24. Jango

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    1) Of course they can't. But masters of surveillance, evasion & blending in, among other things, they are.

    2) So you don't give credence to NIST's conclusions?
     
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    No it does not it still requires tons of explosives. You've read to many comic books.

    Marvin Bush knows next to nothing about demolitions and is not connected to these events
     

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