911 WTC Flight 77 Clips Poles, yet another nail in the official coffin

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yeh well its great to have experts here who do not recognize that is what deflagration looks like in EXTREME slow motjon. LOL

    PLONK another fail
     
  2. Wizard From Oz

    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    Sure, thats all you have. You have been shown why the damage was the way it was. FAA mandated equipment worked exactly as it was supposed to. But that does not fit your narrative so some vague hand waving is in order
     
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    Thanks I was not aware they had become so wide spread in the use. Nice to see when need and applied engineering come together to make a better world
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I am not the one with narrative the official fantasy is the narrative.

    you put up NOTHING that even references a plane and try to pass that off as some kind of proof and its as lame as newsons thermite argument.

    I dont give a rats ass what the faa mandated, even if they mandated it as a result of 911 its completely meaningless in so far as the matters on the table here.

    For (*)(*)(*)(*) sake not even a fuel tank got ruptured on 77 or there would have been fire all the way out to the highway. think... your poles had to be nothing more than a wet noodle, or the plane is nonexistent its the only possible answer someone with a brain firing on all 8 could accept as a fact.
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    Really? Then why are you so scared to click this link?

    Koko, your ignorance does not class as a sufficient rebuttal of evidence. You red herring with a minute detail you fail to comprehend, and ignore the big picture, which shows AA77 hit the Pentagon. Click the Link. Learn something. Your fail gets greater every time you post without clicking my blog.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    learn nothing, you already posted (*)(*)(*)(*) that you wanted me to believe was remotely applicable to supporting your position and if anything it proved mine.

    I put up the goods, poles slice through planes like a knife through hot butter, you nor anyone else has shown anything to the contrary.

    just more fail more plonk
     
  7. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yeh comes in handy when you want to drive your vw 50 feet above the ground at 300 miles per hour. definitely the land of oz

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    oh and thats all I need btw :)
     
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    Well you should. Facts a pesky little things. The better they are the harder they are to refute. You have the problem that the poles acted exactly the way they were designed, for the reasons they were designed for. All before 911
     
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    not at all.

    I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that telephone/light poles slice through wings like a hot knife through butter,


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    see those are poles, the wings are butter, the poles did just what they were supposed to and break off but not before slicing through the wing like a hot knife through butter.



    I showed you my test results now lets see YOUR TEST RESULTS.

    Unless of course you are trying to bull(*)(*)(*)(*) us and YOU HAVE NOTHING (which is what I think it is but I will give you the benefit of a doubt anyway).
     
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    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    No all you grabbed was a random gif from the internet and are trying to save yourself. You know nothing about that test, it's aim, parameters etc. So dont try to act all clever and claim you do
     
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    so I ask you for YOUR TEST RESULTS and you give me more (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lip service, nothing zippo nada damn thing. you dont need to be a rocket scientist to figure out why anyone would fly a plane into poles! DUH!

    and the poles sliced through the wings like a hot knife through butter, pretty simple, if you dont get it by now not much I can do to help you.



    PLONK

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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    been there done that, proof you do not understand the difference between a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing plane and a car.

    you didnt even read the damn intro

    see planes fly through the air cars are vehicles and they roll along ground on roadways


    nowhere does it mention planes, or airports or anything aviation related

    just more of the same

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    (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stop

    spare us already
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    guess what, they didnt have composite poles so yet another red herring


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    thanks cj

    see that bottom section that is meant to shatter on a crash, doesnt change its vertical rigidity to a wet noodle
     
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    How is one supposed to deal with koko's ignorance?...especially when he revels in it?
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I have already instructed you how to deal with jojo's superior intelligence

    Jojo proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that telephone/light poles slice through wings like a hot knife through butter,


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    see those are poles, the wings are butter, the poles did just what they were supposed to and break off but not before slicing through the wing like a hot knife through butter.



    I showed you my test results now lets see YOUR TEST RESULTS.

    Unless of course you are trying to bull(*)(*)(*)(*) us and YOU HAVE NOTHING (which is what I think it is but I will give you the benefit of a doubt anyway).
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    I see koko is still maintaining poles set up for a crash test are the same as poles set up with frangible conections.......
     
  19. Kokomojojo

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    POST YOUR TEST RESULTS

    as I have

    same thing for everyone else who wants to parrot the same (*)(*)(*)(*).

    trolls
     
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    You have not tested anything. Now stop trolling and prove that the poles in the crash test were not steel, or that they in any way resemble typical freeway light standards.

    Now, get this through you thick skull, too. If a car can knock the pole over, hitting it at the bottom, without the car's being utterly demolished, how hard could it possibly be to bend it over and break it at the top where you have the advantage of leverage?

    You are just not thinking of the broader implications of what you are blathering about.
     
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    You really are very bad at this. I proved before you even started this thread that the poles were knocked over by AA77. Is it our fault you're incapable of doing a google search?

    Now you make excuses for your total failure to understand simple physics.

    Alternatively, you should be taking this information to the media Koko. Send this to CNN, New York Times, etc, I'm sure they would be amazed at your precision research. Pulitzer material? Maybe you should given them a heads up to. Do let us know when you've done so koko.
     
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    Actually, the light standards have to be very flexible higher up so that they do not tear themselves lose from that frangible anchor. Had they no give in the sorts of winds that one woud expect in most places, they would be snapping off several per week. This is common sense stuff. You can see them swaying in the wind some times.
     
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    nor have I claimed that I did the test.

    I have to laugh when someone claiming to be a fireman and forensic expert cannot tell what is going on there. you can see the poles flip over and you can get a good idea of the material by watching it. Then again you thought it sprung back, when in fact you can also see them being sliced off along with the wing and flipping over end for end.

    Steel and Al poles are designed to have the same loading characteristics as wood poles. Conclusive proof that telephone poles slice off wings.

    I already told you the base is designed to shatter upon impact, so that the pole retains its same vertical rigidity, that means if you hit it at the top it has the same strength but if you hit it at the bottom it shatters the square mount. most cars do not go airborne to hit the pole 30 feet off the ground. and most planes do not off road taxi to hit the mount on the ground. if you understood what you were looking at you would have known that by the design.

    You see otherwise the pole would simply be bolted to a block of concrete. not real tough stuff here.

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    It is materially proven that telephone poles slice off wings, now you have to materially prove your version does not or provide more than lip service and a pamphlet showing they are designed to function for anything but ground traveling vehicles. You have not and continue to fail to do so.

    Now someone did show a composite, that would help, but guess what, those poles were not composite. So you are right back where you started, giving it nothing more than lip service.
     
  24. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I could also take the free bird seed and spam the board with a meaningless blog.

    face you have nothing material. zippo nada Just a lot of hot air, belches and beer farts.

    meantime truthers have wings being sliced off like a knife through butter!
     
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    Like hell they are. You can see that the geometry of the pole changes where the wing hits it. Material spalls out on the front surface while the back just bends a little bit. They do not flip end-over-end.

    Were you not trying to lie to us, you would have used the actual video rather than just random cuts of it. Gifs are worthless without the actual video as recorded for most forensic purposes. Had you included enough information on your piece of crap gif, we would have seen either tghe poles standing there just slightly damaged, proving you a liar, or lying on the ground, suggesting that you might not actuially be an autistic kid trolling from mommy's basement.

    Got the whole video to put up here, or are we just going to get more of the same bukkake as usual?
     

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