Their is no hurt to be had here, just complete confusion as to why people believe a particular way and use that to justify their bigotries.
Sorry, but your posts shout down your denial...you've 'leaked' some info that would indicate why you are so bitter...
If they are genuinely repentant, humble, and deeply remorseful for their actions? Yes, they will be forgiven.
No information has been leaked, it has been put out in the open for all to see. You seem to think there is some secret underlying cause for my hostility, there is not. It is all blunt, obvious, and without need for vast conspiracy theories. Why do I have an issue with Christianity, Judaism, and Islam? There books contain the encouragement for acts such as genocide, murder, rape, slavery, and oppression. Yes, there are in the old testament. I do not care. Neither do most of your Christian buddies. Those some old testament verses are used for the justification of acts today. Case in point, the denial of rights for homosexuals. You worship a vengeful and malicious god. Hell, might as well throw Mormons in the mix too, they seem to think that blacks are "the beasts of the field". Bigots. Give me a religion that does not advocate unprovoked violence. A religion that is nothing but love and compassion, and you will see I haven't an issue with it.
This is a good example. You may rape, torture, and commit unspeakable crimes against an innocent child, and get a ticket into heaven. You may destroy the world's population, killing every man, woman, and child, and, get a ticket into heaven. However, if you reject the supernatural, volunteer, do good, help your neighbors move for no other reason than you know they need the help, even air up elderly women's tires when asked, you will go to hell. That makes a lot of sense. A fear based doctrine.
Agh, no you cannot. Those acts earn you a trip to hell. Your trip is earned fully. If however, you realize that these actions are wrong, if you genuinely and honestly repent of them, attempt within all your earthly means to undue the damage your SIN has done, then yes, God will forgive you. (He will not free you from the consquences of your actions here on Earth however). That is why it is called grace, BTW - because there is no way to repair the damage those acts of caused. If you reject something with cause or factual basis, insult it, and gerally disparage and insult something due to a personal issue? Well, its called slander. And I do believe there is a commandment about lying. Of course, you would have us believe you have no sin? Another lie. Sin great and small can be forgiven with God. Atheists? can't forgive anything or even acknowledge the obviousness of any sin. Atheism a doctrine based on delusion and self worship.
A ticket to heaven. Sin is a harmful act in the eyes of the enlightened, the simply questioning of a belief is not a sin our eyes. We have very different ideas of what a sin is.
That would include lying. Perhaps you should look up something called a lie of omission? And a lie of commission? Then explain to me where Jesus commands us to rape and kill people? Perhaps check out the king james version of 1 Corinthian 13, where the call to charity as love is best expressed? Nah, you'd rather bash people in ignorance and call yourself enlightened. So be it. People see it for what it is.
That is an interesting perspective. I have a different one, but no more or less valid. I believe in a personal relationship, whether it be with the God within or without or both. Each person will experience God in a different way. There are many perspectives in the Bible .. again which is why I am against any human claiming to know exactly what God wishes for all; speaking for God. What is in common between our two perspectives is that both deny a literal interpretation of the Bible .. which IMO .. is a good thing.
Interesting contrast between the vengefullness of the OT and emphasis on retributive justice and the some of the NT ideas. A contradiction indeed .. to believe one is to disregard the other.
Those that receieve God wrath in the OT are anything but humble and repentant. You would know that if you had actually read the Bible. You haven't. Please stop lying about the Bible in order to flame bait Christians.
Yes, religion is based in fear. Whatever religion, if it is islamism his basis is fear, the christianism is fear. If you don't do what we say you will go to the hell. Fear. And I think that Bertrand Russell is good to explain this:
So basically, you sit arung thinking about how screwd up everyone is but you? It's called narcassim. I think you are just flame baiting, as you aren't actually referrencing anyone's faith but your own ... in how screwed up everyone is.
I am not flame baiting. Just I am saying that religion is founded in fear. And that is. Analyze the different texts of the bible, and tell me if that is not fear or not. Analyze the attitudes of many Islamic people or Christians. Sorry, but religion is created only because people have fear to the unknown.
There is nothing to analyze but your opinion based in your own narcassistic views of others. You don't like my religion or anyone else? Too bad. You are in the wrong section for sympathy. You are in the wrong forum for patronizing or even consideration of an unsupported and thoroughly uneducated opinion. Its all about the rise you can garner. Typical atheism. Self above al else.
Because you can't analyze that. Unsupported? LOL. It is not unsupported, it is supported. When one of the basis of the religion is the condemnation of the infidels to the hell. Is that not being based in fear?
Where is your support? Open up the bible and read it, then come back and share your opinion on it. Thank you.
My opinion is that all atheist trolls are basically the spawn of satan. I have as much proof of that as anything you have brought into this forum. Enjoy the fruits of your standards.
LOL. Satan again. Really. And do you expect that I discuss with you seriously :-S When you accuse me of being satanist. For first point: - I don't believe neither Satan, neither God, neither ghosts or any other mythological creature Second, when you refer to Satan or satanism, what do you mean? Also, if we take the bible. The Devil gave to the human something that in Eden didn't have: Free will. So, Satan liberated the human and gave to the human freedom. I think that The Devil is not so evil. Even in the bible could be considered as a neutral character, not aligned, neither evil neither good.
You really have an interesting way of thinking. Here we go again. 1. He never said you believed in Satan. You wouldn't be an atheist if you did. Satan can still use you to achieve his ends without you believing in him. You won't even have to know that he's there. 2. God used Satan to achieve his plans. Satan thought he was thwarting God's plan, but God was just doing what he knew would work. If God just gave out the free will,who knows, maybe he knew it wouldn't have worked. Maybe he knew that Satan had to do it or his plan wouldn't work. We don't understand God - his ways are not our ways.
If God was not able to give to the human free will, then he is not omnipotent, so something fails And you are saying that God can fail LOL. I know what he said, but in other post other thread yes that he mentioned satanism, for that I answered in that way.
Wow, talk about missing the point. The point is that I too can make any silly ass claim I want about atheists and call it debate just as you do us. Like you, I subsequently have no burden to support it - it just is because I say so. As Satan is apparently to literal to make the point, lets try some others in the name of good old fashioned fun. Atheists are smurfs. In order to prove evolution (which almost all Christian alrteady accept), atheists have decided to use artificial selection to turn themselves into little blue smurfs over time. All atheists live in mirror covered rooms. As we know that atheism is self worship, its a telling sign of the narcassism as the center of atheism to find a mirror covered room as a dead give away of an overt atheist. Despite the atheist affiliation for promsicuity, many atheists remain deeply afraid of STD's. Thus, another telling sign of atheism is the prescence of a sexual 'space suit' to ensure that there is absolutely no physical contact during their sexual escapades. What? Running around making silly claims without support does not lead to an accurate view of atheist? What a shock.
Your lack of biblical understanding is not lying on my part. The OT is based on retributive justice .. When you sin, you are punished for that sin. The punishments for various sins are well laid out as well as rules and rituals. If two were caught in adultery in the OT they were put to death death. Jesus forgives the adulterer. This passage is interesting: Obviously the God of the OT had a different view of marriage than Paul. Perhaps Paul did not understand the OT ?
I thought this was interesting. http://christwire.org/2011/10/a-letter-from-hell-what-happens-if-you-let-your-friend-die-an-atheist/
