A high percentage of Russians, Bulgarians, etc. = Freeloaders

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    The 2nd/3rd World doesn't pay!

    When I came here, many people thought I'll be just the next Balkandzhi Hajduk or Kazachok that's gonna really earn his paid troll services. Look, I love my country Bulgaria, but I despise my nation. I love my nature, the forests, the animals, the architecture, but it's a no way to live. You gotta pay the bills, and you can't pay the bills by working with Bulgarians, Russians, Balkan people. So I hate them! Because these nations are the birth nations of the joyriders and the freeloaders in Europe.

    These people don't care if you have your rent to pay, no food in the fridge, or if your car broke down. It's a parasitic mentality that is not necessarily nominal for the Western world, Detroit, Calais.

    People often say "You can't buy happiness with money."

    You actually can. When your tooth hurts or you need a surgery and medicine and there's no one around to help you out with money so the pain can stop, without money you will understand the real wisdom behind "You actually can buy happiness with money." Around here, you must have enough money to pay for everything medical because the state doesn't cover anything at all.

    The Eastern-Asian-Arab-African mentality at full power.

    In Bulgaria, Russia, Serbia, Macedonia, Croatia, the whole Balkans, even Romania since the mentality is pretty close, you will very often find people that want you to work for free. They will approach you over the phone, contact your business, order something, then twist things they did not like what they got, and use all their force to not pay for it.

    It's the Arab mentality I also met. My family is in the real estate business for around 26 years now and I've been around. The only types of people that did not pay for the commission or tried to circle the brokers were the ones from the Middle East, Bulgaria or Russia. The English could be inbred but they pay. The Germans can be Nazis but they pay. The Americans can be gun nuts or liberals, they still pay.

    I try to be distanced as much as possible from people around here for the same reason, but part of my business is available for my fellow mates. I have to, because I meet some normal people, and I don't want to isolate people like myself. But it's getting tiring. All the problems. Most of them, I'd say around 70-80% of the calls I get, and messages I get, they try and get a product or a service for free.

    Some of them even get to the point to offer me to be a CEO in a non-existent businesses.

    I recently got a call up, guy offered me to be a head of IT security on a company that hasn't been financed yet.

    And that's not the worst. I had a retail store a few years back. A guy called me and offered me minibus used tires from a Ford Transit in an exchange for electronics from my store. He was no laughing, he really wanted to give me used bus tires! It was an official business, with an office, not some ad in the classifieds. I had no words.

    I know, and I understand.

    When somebody calls me a monkey, I don't feel insulted. Because I friking live among the monkeys. They're trying to rip me off all day. At a point in my life I was also offering a Bulgarian VISA help with applications, forms, all that, filing forms, translations, for foreign citizens, open a company for them, etc, all the necessary stuff to reside here. The people that'll try and rip me off were Indians, Iraqis, Bangladeshi, Afghans, Somalis, and the rest of the Asia and Arabia. They just don't want to pay even though most of them own a few cars for $100 grand and a few houses.

    It's a mentality that cannot be broken. That's the reason Bulgarians and Romanians are known for their credit card skimming device scam in the US, and for their marriage frauds in the US and Canada. It's the very same reason I'm talking about here.

    They don't want to pay, so when they don't want to pay, of course they don't want to work. It's interconnected. An immoral man or woman will not pay, and not work an honest job. They'll hustle instead. Something like the Latinos and Africans in the US with their Craigslist scams. Or constant "flippings". Let's flip this, let's flip that. A ton of YouTube videos how to flip stuff and most of these videos are made by Latinos or African-Americans. Check for yourself if you don't trust me. Biggest guys on flipping things on YouTube are not Caucasian. Introduce some Bulgarians or Russians or Romanians with all that and they'll be the first White Caucasians to flip things on YT. In Bulgaria only flipping stuff makes it as a business for the same reason. That's a fact. But you won't hear that on the news or newspapers.

    Bulgarians and Russians over the Internet don't expose things like I do. They hide it. Mask it really sloppy, but I easily see. For the foreigners, takes time to see. I understand. They try and hide their intentions for a reason. You don't just hide something for no reason. You hide something, conceal something, because you have something in mind. Hitler concealed his attack on Poland. The Blitzkrieg was a military tactic of secrecy and speed. Secrecy!

    In the US, there at least the Police and Judicial system regulates them scammers, flippers and such. Here even murderers don't go to jail and nobody can regulate a damn thing about them so they walk freely and scam the hell they want.

    I like the Swiss. The old Swiss mercenaries. They used to say this one phrase: No money, no Swiss. The Swiss mercs were one of the best killers and soldiers in the world. Everybody wanted to hire them for his conflict. They were high grade mercs, and their pay was very high grade. If they did not get paid on time, I'm talking in the same hour or so, they simply marched off in the middle of a battle, and never came back. I don't get paid, I don't work. Simple as that. No pay, no play.

    People around Bulgaria use to joke that "Americans are such robots, they know no hobby". Yeah, because when they need money, they have under the mattress. They don't go and pull a thousand loans, or ask people around for money. That's what the scumbags do. I've never asked anyone for money in my life. That's humiliating. And very pressuring on myself personally, to know I have debts unclear.
     
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    I have heard it said that a country's culture decides its economic fate.

    How can your country develop its economy when everyone is trying to rip each other off ?

    This is one of the big reasons that so many countries in the Middle East, Mexico, Southeast Europe, remain Third World.

    If it's any consolation, I hear Romania is even worse than Bulgaria.

    I don't know how the culture has developed to that point that scamming everyone becomes a normal way of life.
     
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    Oh, I want to say really good post, by the way.
    It's interesting to have the perspective of someone from Southeastern Europe.
    (Since Western Europe is so very different, and people in the West often have very little idea what things are like for the people in 'less affluent' regions of Eastern Europe)
     
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    I went for a coffee in Bucuresti, their capital last year. Just a coffee and a walk. I got lost during the night and my cell had no juice. I saw a car with Bulgarian number plates, honked a few times on him, "maybe he lives around" I thought. He didn't know a word of Bulgarian. Had a brand new Honda, this guy. I saw a ton of cars with Bulgarian number plates in Romania. Later I asked around. Ends up, Romanians went and registered all their cars in the closest Bulgarian city to their border, Ruse, even Razgrad and Silistra (~20-30 mi away) so they don't have to pay their taxes in Romania, but in Bulgaria. That way they avoided some expensive fees and regulations.

    I mean, most of these people I saw with cars with Bulgarian number plates, their cars were more than $15K costing. So how's paying a bit more for a tax a problem.

    About what you said. You may be right. Just the next proof, what I saw. They avoid, then they cry they have no roads to drive on.

    Your post was pretty good too.

    News about their car registration scheme:
    https://www.monitor.bg/bg/a/view/40982-Опашки-за-регистрация-на-румънски-автомобили
     
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    Thank you! ;)
    A lot.
     
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    I'd really be curious whether this is all just cultural or if it's in the genes.

    If the latter case, the Western half of Europe is doomed.

    I've seen so many hopeless cases of men from Romania, I'm inclined to suspect the latter.
    And a family member has had a few run-ins with Iranians, who are not the worst of them.
     
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    It's too bad, Bulgaria seems like such a quaint country, from the pictures you've posted in another thread, and others I've seen.
    With architecture, plenty open space, fair temperatures, resorts and castles against the Black Sea.

    But it does have sort of "Second World" living standards when it comes to their economy.
     
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    Cultural, mentality you acquire.

    I won't lie. I had time in life when I just threw my junk and garbage on the ground. I eat McDonalds, walk around in the park, when I'm finished eating, I used to make my garbage into a tight ball and throw it in the grass or bush somewhere, sometimes even on the asphalt. I've changed because I wanted to, I felt it's not right, and now I got to the point people like that piss me off, and even my own mother continues to do that.

    I guess I got it from her. She would often just throw things on the ground instead of going to the nearest recycle bin container. Even if there's no bin around, just collect your junk, put it in a plastic bag, in your car, and later throw it out. What's the hassle. I try and explain not to do it, even yell at her sometimes, she just replies "Everybody does it, am I more stupid than them?" It's the broken window syndrome. See a broken window, and 10 people that walk by will throw a stone. It's people. It's culture. Way of life. No genetics. Maybe very little genetics. But if it was genetics, I would not have been able to stop just throwing my rubbish on the ground.

    I think "If everybody else is doing it, they are the stupid ones, not me."
    My mother thinks otherwise.

    I've looked in this more deeply, and a Bulgarian psychologist posted an article. In Bulgaria everybody shows off with black cars, BMWs, Audis. They rent, don't have a house and nothing to eat, but show off with an expensive Audi RS4. I even know a guy that drives a Gallardo and lives in a panel communist bloc in a ghetto hood in Sofia, Bulgaria. I mean...

    I believe it's what the Doctor said:

    "People here believe that when you throw your garbage and junk on the ground, or over your window, you assert your domination over others."

    They think "I'm big, the law doesn't apply for me, I have connections." Which boosts their ego. Look at me, I'm an outlaw. I don't care about anything, ain't scared from the Police. I can throw my rubbish on the ground.

    It's totally a culture thing.
     
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    You can often see this in African American culture in the U.S. as well.
    I know a Black guy who earns good money, but he blew it all on expensive sports cars that he only owned a couple of years.
    He had every brand except a Lamborghini.
    Now he basically has nothing.

    He's very intelligent too.
    I suspect it may have something to do with impulse control.
     
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    It is great, if you avoid people. I became a serious introvert because of all that. That's why I like Kavarna, Shabla, Vlas, Ahtopol and Sozopol around the sea, around fall, september, august, october. Beaches are empty. No junk, no people, no beer bottles laying around at the beach. Nobody goes there so you can enjoy your meal, even go clubbing, at peace. The club I go to, there's barely 30-35 people outside, it's like a lounge bar. I go, get a few drinks, walk the beach, then head back home.

    It's no way to live among the vultures that drain your energy even more.

    It's sad really. The nature is being ruined too. Beaches are being built upon, sold on concessions, forests cut down, most of the animal wildlife has been killed by the poachers and hunters. Extinct. It's the end. I have no unrealistic expectations.

    We even had the Edelweiss. One of the rarest flowers on earth. We even killed our Edelweiss. It was in the Pirin mountains.

    You cannot find it now.
     
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    Bulgaria may not have much money but I bet it has quality of life in other ways.

    Yes, the country has a parasitic culture, but surely there exist some good aspects.

    I have also seen some genetic studies that showed the country of Turkey had a large influx of population from the area that is today Pakistan. I'm sure that must have affected Bulgaria's genepool as well.

    (I know the two countries seem very distant on a map, but there was a lot of connection between those parts of the world in ancient times, you can read about the gypsies or the founder of the Mamluk dynasty, and a thread on the subject here)
     
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    Two people quietly having a chat laden with racist claptrap! List of whole countries to condemn. Tut at the blacks. Give a 'don't matter if its nature or nurture' superiority sneer etc etc etc.

    Perhaps a bigger problem here is that this hate is increasingly tolerated?
     
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    What hate, it's the reality, it's life. The fact that there are soft snowflakes from New York to always feel insulted is not our problem, not mine problem too.
     
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    Correct. In the old Ottoman Empire and can be seen still nowadays, it was an insult to refuse the salesman to give you a discount. For the Ottoman Empire, the pazarlak (mindless bargaining) was part of life, a great deal even.
     
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    Don't mind him, he's a pretty little snow flake that doesn't know what life is like outside the U.K. or the Commonwealth countries.

    These types of antics coming from that member are pretty typical of him.

    I suppose it was a mistake of me to bring up DNA ( = racist !! in the part of the world he comes from)
     
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    To be fair, I'm surprised you didn't throw in some Romany hatred, just for good measure.
     
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    Why would he? His own fellow countrymen are bad enough.
     
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    It would be interesting to see if there is any innovation in the hate. You underscored on that, as you couldn't resist a standard racially motivated tabloidism. On the bright side, you haven't brought up fascist eugenics yet. The only way is up!
     
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    BULGARICA doesn't realise it is nothing to do with nationalism, it's to do with human greed and government corruption - although I fail to see how the paying of utility bills in Bulgaria can possibly have an impact on Russia?
     
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    What is Romany?

    Rome and the Roman Empire.
    Or rum, the alcohol, called rom in Bulgaria.
    In Bulgaria, rom really is a type of alcoholic beverage.

    So enough with the political correctness, okay? I'm not Sweden. It's called a gypsy. Zigeuner on German. Gitano on Greek. It's not a rom, rum, roma, romani, or anything close to the Roman Empire or Romania. It's just political correctness masked in politeness. More like madness.

    Now this explains everything. When I hear UK nowadays, I think gun control + acid attacks. No need to place more arguments.

    Hurrah.

    And by the way, it's funny how he's throwing the racism card when in fact, my top favorite actor is the one playing Gustavo Fring (Giancarlo Esposito)

    Insanely strong character and genius acting.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Who's picking the government? All people around me are always voting for the most corrupt party. Go figure how it has nothing to do with the people. And instead of refusing to take bribes and starting an own business, everyone is pushing for a government job so they can take bribes! Money are a lot there, I understand. People love dirty money, dirty like them. But you don't. Clearly. You clearly have no clue.
     
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    Oh there's definitely a cultural component in his society as well.
    The tree is rotten from the bottom up.
     
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    Like I said - it's all to do with human greed, so it looks like yourself who doesn't have a clue? And I still don't know what paying your bills in Bulgaria has to do with Russia.
     
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    Certain members of the Left would say it's racist to point out cultural problems in other societies.

    Greed doesn't explain why some societies have a lot more problems than others.

    And economics is a lot more about integrity and cultural habits than people give credence.

    I say it's not just about poverty and economic social factors. Look at the oil-wealthy Gulf states; corruption and graft are endemic.
     
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    Its about economics is it? Then why aren't you quoting and sourcing from economic analysis?

    Haters pretending to be intellectual do have a comedy value I suppose.
     

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