A hug from the executioner... then two gay men are stoned to death:

What are you talking about?

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Businesses do not have to print everything. If someone comes in and wants a shirt printed with an overtly political message they are not required to print it. I used to work in printing and they turned down porn jobs all the time because they felt it didn't fit the company image.

 

Very doubtful it was just about sex. Gays have attraction feelings just like straights. Thought you might already know this.

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Very well stated and right to the heart of the matter.

 

Right here in the good ole USA, just 40 yrs or so ago, you could witness a gay being dragged behind a pickup. And it wasn't by their choice.

Do you think those 2 men decided one day to say, lets see if we can get ourselves stoned to death?

As another poster so eloquently put it, here in the USA, all RWers and holy christians want to do is shame them into suicide today.

 

And that's how it should be when it comes to businesses, they should be able to do what they feel is best for their company, not what some political group wants them to do.

 

Except that if a bakery advertises wedding cakes then they have to make wedding cakes. If they advertised "We do all sorts of cakes except wedding cakes" or "We only do birthday cakes" then you would have a point but if you are making wedding cakes then you have to make them for everyone. The only thing they could choose not to do is obscene, pornographic, offensive or overtly political/religous cakes. The people that wanted the gay wedding cakes didn't want any of those. The hacks that wanted them to make the anti-gay cakes wanted overtly political/religous messages.

 

Not really. Kind of an overreaction to say that. If a bunch of bad comments is all it takes to kill us, we can't live in a free speech society.

 

Somehow you concluded that because I find this speech reprehensible and ignorant I must want to ban it. Don't get me wrong, this is the worst post I've seen on this forum, but come on.

Freedom of speech also includes other people using their freedom of speech to criticize your speech.

 

Yeah, I could have it worse, but the "other people have it worse therefore shut up" argument is the worst bull(*)(*)(*)(*) in the book. Does this mean that only the most miserable person on earth is allowed to complain? After all, everyone but them could have it worse.

Sure, we have it better here. It still isn't good enough, so we'll keep demanding better until it's good enough.

Furthermore, why does it matter how outraged we are at Islam? What can we do about it? We don't have power there, so why not just focus on what we can change?

 

Because of the constant railing on Christian luddites for not baking cakes or making pizzas but the virtual silence when it comes to how Islam treats gays. Outside of Bill Maher and a handful of others you can't find any liberals who are denouncing gay executions and imprisonment or outright executions. They are too afraid of being labelled racist or bigoted. They are more concerned with patting themselves on the back for being open minded and tolerant even if it means not standing up for liberty and for a groups that they supposedly claim to support. Almost every single time the subject of how Islam treats women and gays is brought up people like you go "Oh yeah! But look at what the Christians do." Your previous post just proved my point. Meanwhile if you topic is social conservatives treatment of gays I never hear "Oh yeah! But look at what the Muslims do." from anyone on the left. Its only people on the right or Libertarians like myself or a handful of non-sheepish liberals that say anything about it. Liberals are so open minded about Islam their (*)(*)(*)(*)ing brains have fallen out of their heads.

 

Then in reality they can just state that they make cakes, cupcakes, cookies, etc. for "many occassions", and with not being totally specific they can say they won't make a cake for a particular event. Correct or no?

 

Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lays with another man, he should be stoned"

Gay marriage and marijuana are being legalized at the same time.

Coincidence?

 

Don't think that would work. Either you have to charge a dollar, or probably even just a penny, and make it a private club membership or you have to say that you don't do any wedding cakes at all. I honestly don't know why the businesses that don't want to do gay cakes just don't charge the penny and make it a membership only business like Cost Co or Sams Club.

 

When one gets shamed into suicide thoughts, it goes much deeper than bad comments. Surprised you wouldn't know that.

 

I don't think you're listening hard enough. Go ask any gay person what they think of the Middle East and get back to me.

 

I have discussed ad nauseam. Those responses are the normal responses. Liberals are to PC to criticize Islam. Whenever the topic does come up it is almost always followed by "But Christians......"

 

I mean, yeah, people have told me to go die, (*)(*)(*), and the rest, but really, that's stuff middle schoolers say, ya know? It used to depress me, but there's no way to stop that kinda talk without putting far too vague limits on free speech. Anything can hurt someone's feelings, can't censor the world.