A human genome has fully been decoded for the first time

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    A human genome has fully been decoded for the first time

    Buoyed by powerful new sequencing technology, a loose collaborative of about 100 scientists announced Thursday they’d filled in the gaps, completing a single human genome from one end to the other and opening new, promising lines of research in areas where scientists have been wandering around in the dark.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/sci...c8z4pSGJQMbAYk4nKeS90M5mgx5seOCT3C9sOMdQLAQAA


    Thee wonders of science!!!!
     
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    OK, time for me to start getting younger!
     
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    You and me both !!!;-)
     
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    A quote from the article

    He can envision it that way. I envision the world as it truly is. I envision Government using this data to categorize potential criminals. Certain Genetic makeups will be discriminated against. I envision scientists trying to alter a millennia worth of human evolution to learn of its adverse effects too late. I do not support dabbling in this area.


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    "Decoded" is probably not the right word. They have the full sequence recorded for the first time but they have almost no idea what most of that code means.
     
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    Soon they be figuring out - humans come from Ape ! -den wat ?! .. Next they be finding out that we not just ape .. but a mixture of Alien and Ape - as "Ancient Alient Theorists Suggest" :)
     
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    I believe in evolution but I don’t believe we came from apes. I think believing that is laughable. That’s like saying Bison came from Cape Buffalo. Just cause they’re similar doesn’t mean they came about the same way. Or to say that a shark came from a whale
     
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    Yeah .. I think its actually a chimp and not an ape ... can find how much neanderthal DNA you have in one of them tests ... and yes Bison and Cape Buffalo have a common ancestor .. which we can now track very accuratly through DNA .. quite amazing what they are doing these days - but didn't need that for those two.

    Now a shark and a whale .. have to go way way back .. as one is a Mammal .. the other a Fish -- very different beasties these two .. not so much for the Bison and Buffalo.

    I am waiting for them to find the Alien DNA .. won't that be fun.
     
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    Im sure they have a common ancestor… that no longer exists.

    If we came from apes why are apes still around? Why didn’t they evolve?
     
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    What you say is true. Science says humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor, not from each other.
     
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    Yes, that was my impression of the article as well. But watch the replies, it will certainly show you who the real tyrants are. This seems to be a Eugenicists wet dream.
     
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    That's in the Octopus, some say.
     
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    Probably the article you read was biased and intentionally created the wrong impression for you to walk away with, without actually technically lying.

    You can say that different races exist, or that they do not, depending on the genetic definition or criteria you use.

    Also it can be pointed out that just because two groups can interbreed, does not necessarily mean they are the same species. There are plenty of examples of this in the plant kingdom, and a few in the animal kingdom as well. Sometimes the line between species and subspecies, or between subspecies and population group, is not the clearest. Not all scientists (or taxonomists) will agree on what exactly constitutes separate species, or race groups.

    I do not think there are any non-human primates that still exist in the world today that humans can interbreed with. But supposedly there used to be a long time ago.
    There are also a few "humanoid" groups still left in some remote far-flung corners of the world that many might not describe as "people" (or not really like people as we know them). But genetically, no one would argue that they are not human. These groups are fast dying out and will probably not still exist in another 60 years.
     
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    If you look at the fine print for the Future, it says 'some assembly required'.

    While DNA is important, there has been a lot of research expanding our understanding beyond DNA. There's a LOT going on we didn't know about.

    After Jurassic Park, it drew attention to research that was actually trying to bring back extinct critters. It turned out to be massively harder than we thought at the time.

    So, while I think this is cool, it looks like we still have a long way to go. It reminds me of AI, a LOT of people in the 1960s thought we were close to developing full AI. Here we are, 60 years later, and AI remains elusive. A brilliant engineer I used to argue with thought we would never build full AI. I still don't agree with him, but I'm not making any predictions about when that will happen.

    The engineer is Victor Khomenko, and he owns Balanced Audio Technologies. I can't afford his stuff, but I have listened to it, and it's about as good as it gets.

    https://www.balanced.com/
     
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    Have you ever had to deal with a toddler dying from Cystic Fibrosis? Are you an Anti-Vaxer?
     
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    I don't have a problem with that, in principle.

    I'm just not sure I trust a government body to be intelligent enough or have the correct motivations to do it right. Just look at all the crazy laws and policies politicians have implemented these days.

    We'd probably see requirements like "mandatory insertion of diversity" into the genome. And babies wouldn't be allowed to be designed to be too smart because it would give them an "unfair advantage" compared to all the other babies.
     
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    We are all homo sapiens.

    Pigment does not a different species make...

    So.. the way I look at it, there's no reason to waste time, unless one has an ulterior motive...

    This is a perennial, every generation at least flirts with racism. But what we have now looks like it's going to turn into a gang bang.
     
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    I’m not sure why… no matter the genetic makeup free will still exists even if you’re tempted by an internal desire to commit a crime. So discrimination to certain types of coding I would strongly oppose.
     
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    I’m vaccinated so no, and no I have not had to deal with that scenario, but it may cause other scenarios as well
     
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    I know a guy who has a set or them. They have their own room and sit on a shelf all by themselves, completely unadorned by any sort of case. Truly beautiful technology
     
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    Well then what IS the same species (and different)? I always heard it was the ability to interbreed and breed true (no sterile hybrids). A Great Dane can interbreed with a chihuahua (artificially) but it cannot interbreed with a cat
     
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    That's not entirely true. It is a little too complicated than I can simply explain here.

    Consider citrus fruits or roses. Most all citrus fruits or roses that you see are hybrids of original species.

    I do know that in the case of oranges, hybridization has effected them such that almost all the seeds will be genetic clones of the parent, so in some sense it would be difficult for that plant to breed in the wild. But a very small percentage of the seeds can grow that are not just clones.
     
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    They did evolve .. and continue to do so .. not much a grasp of evolution do you have . asking such questions. Just because you take group of humans .. then separate them on 2 islands .. one group evolves differently .. doesn't mean the other group dies off .. not how it works :)

    and you forgot the alien part . on one of the Islands the Aliens visited .. mixed the neanderthal with their own DNA .. producing a hybrid .. the Adamu .. the etymology of which is quite fascinating - the first "humans" these were .. worker drones ..

    and now you know "The Rest of the Story" :)
     
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    Strikingly intelligent creatures .. those 8 legged friends .. but not the hybrid that resulted in the human worker drone ..
     
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    You truly believe that?
     

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