A question of trust of fellow citizens

Why was I not allowed to carry a gun on base when I was part of the "organized militia"? Did they violate my rights to keep and BEAR arms? Should I sue? You ignore this question every time I ask it. I suppose you will ignore it or deflect this time also. I was considered "people" when I was in the Guard.

 

It is difficult to refute what has no basis in reality. One cannot refute the delusional and insane ramblings of a homeless individual who is suffering from extreme mental disturbances, but that does not make what they are saying correct.

 

You have nothing but diversion, red herrings and an assortment of other fallacies to work with.

Only well regulated militia are declared necessary to the security of a free State, not the unorganized militia of the People.

 

If that be the case then why is the national guard prevented from bearing arms on the base? Aren't they the regulated militia you describe?

 

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. "Red herrings" don't apply; you seem to be the one hell bent on an imaginary diversion. Insofar as fallacies, your B.S. hasn't been bought by a single poster on this forum. It has no sound legal basis and no judge at ANY level has ever written a single sentence giving any hope to people that might believe the cow dung you sling. Have I mentioned before that you need to get a freaking life?

 

Gun lovers and the rest of the unorganized militia should get more "cozy" with your County sheriff, for posse duty. You could be "Regulators".

 

Again, any discussion arguing the meaning of militia in relation to the Second Amendment is moot in terms of the right, the Supreme Court ruled the Amendment’s prefatory clause announces one purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope of the second clause which is to limit government from infringing on an existing, absolute individual right. Case rulings and case law are now accumulating under that interpretation.

Regardless, in reference to the potential of the increasing domestic terrorism threat, all Americans, particularly those excersizing their Second Amendment rights, are a line of defense in protecting themselves, their families, other citizens, their homes and their country from these threats.

 

I'm not in love with guns, so that leaves the rest of the unorganized militia. That being the case, if a sheriff needs the militia, I'm sure he will ask. Other than that, if America suddenly finds itself in a real SHTF situation, a second army will arise, already armed and most of them with the requisite knowledge to understand what a threat is and how we lawfully respond.

 

Natural rights are declared civil rights in State supreme laws of the land; including the right to defense of self and property, and acquiring and possessing private property in the class called Arms.

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We already have an organized militia; the unorganized militia is not necessary and should wait to be called by County sheriffs.

 

What is the organized militia?

 

There is no appeal to ignorance of the law. 10USC311.

 

And that is? I'm not appealing to ignorance of the law, where you get that?

 

Forgive me in advance for my sarcasm.

Well, first one must form a well regulated militia. The next step would be to go to the DORM (Department Of Regulated Militias), and pass a test to make sure your level of regulation is up to government standards.

Once you have the governments permission, you will receive your Militia ID card. You may now go to the gun store and purchase a firearm you have no idea how to use because you weren't allowed to own one before you were deemed "well regulated"

This group of people who have never touched a firearm is now considered a WRM and may now begin shooting.

Brilliant!

 

That's just something he says. All. The. Time.

 

What is the organized militia? It is defined in 10USC311.

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Wellness of regulation for the militia must come from our federal Congress. Article 1, Section 8. And, well regulated Militia are authorized their own colors, standards, guidons, and banners.

 

We're going in circles so let me help you out. You should link what you are talking about.

http://bearingarms.com/well-regulated/

BTW, if a organized militia is the national gaurd then why are they denied the right to bear arms on the base? Aren't there rights to bear arms is being infringed? Plus we're talking about a regulated militia not an organized one.

 

Here's something that might clear some things up.

http://www.redstate.com/diary/johnliberty/2013/11/27/why-the-national-guard-is-not-a-militia/

 

Wellness of regulation for the militia must come from our federal Congress. Article 1, Section 8.

 

Does it really matter? The organized militia is defined in 10USC311 by the general government of the Union.

In any case, well regulated militia are authorized their own colors, standards, guidons, and banners; the unorganized militia is still liable for posse duty.

 

Then we should not allow law enforcement to have guns? How about armored car guards?

 

Law enforcement is not a posse or a militia. Counties are authorized their own law enforcement along with municipalities.

 

You're switching terms. I'm talking about a regulated militia and you're talking about an organized militia.

 

A well regulated militia must be an organized militia.

 

By today's terms maybe but not by the founding fathers' day. Read the link I gave you.

 

And what does it matter?It is an irrelevant argument.