A question to Creationists....what ethnicity were Adam & Eve?

I suppose some folks eyes glaze over when reading their favorite ethnocentric Middle East religious fairy tale so they miss the important parts.

Please read Genesis 2:10-14.https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 2:10-14&version=CEB;DRA;CEV;AMP;NKJV

The passage states that the Garden was in the area surrounded by Arabia, Assyrian and Ethiopia. If those countries didn't exist with Adam & Eve why are they mentioned in that context? And since they existed so did their people.

Remember, in the Bible only Jews were considered men. So Adam & Eve could well have been Jews because the Bible is just a Jewish fairy tale and not a history of greater humanity. Even the Bible says not to believe the Bible. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus 1:14&version=CEB;NLT;CEV;AMP;NKJV

 

Have you never read a history book that said:
Columbus discovered America.
It should call the island by its indigenous name.
The same goes for all those other places identified by their current name rather than previous name.
In 1982 Rick Barry asked Bill Russel how many championships Kareem Abdul-Jabbar had won.
He said one (1980) because the other time (1971) he was Lew Alcindor.
The Bible calls most things by the name they had at the time of publication (though in some cases it offers both names and the explanation).
Mr. Goebbels,it's 1945. You don't have to lie any more.

 

So what do you call all of those people who lived at the same time as Adam & Eve? Your favorite ethnocentric religious Middle Eastern fairy tale plainly says that they existed. And did you notice that the Assyria Empire existed from Adam's time through Noah's flood until its collapse around 605 BC? The land is till there and so are some of the Assyrian ruins, at least until the crazies from ISIS destroys them.

 

Actually they were the offspring of burrowing creatures:

http://www.evolutionary-metaphysics.net/evolution_of_humankind.html

"Around 65 million years ago, a massive rock slammed into the earth with devastating impact. The explosion was so powerful that it incinerated everything within a thousand mile radius. Forest fires and volcanic eruptions sent thick clouds of dust and smoke into the sky, blocking out the sun around the world for many months. As the sunlight faded, the temperature began to drop. Plants withered as they were starved of sunlight and food became scarce. All of the large land animals died, as did many of the smaller ones.

The only dinosaurs to survive were the birds, who were able to fly above the carnage to search for scraps of food. Among the survivors on the ground were the small furry mammals who were well adapted to cold conditions. Being the only remaining land animal with warm blood, no other animal could now compete against the mammals for dominance on the land. Mammals rapidly evolved into a wide variety of shapes and sizes to take advantage of all of the new opportunities left behind by the extinction of the dinosaurs.

The evolution of mammals

Although there appears to be large differences between different species of mammal, all mammals are variations of the same basic design. For example, they all have the same set of bones. The bones of the human hand are arranged in a similar way to the bones of a bat's wing or a whale's flipper. The only significant difference is that the bones are different sizes.

Large differences can appear between ancestors and their descendents with only minor changes to those parts of the DNA that control the timing of childhood growth and the rate at which different body parts grow.

Species remain relatively unchanged for long periods of time. Significant mutations are rare, but when they do occur, a new group may break away from the original group and take over new environments for which they are better adapted. If the new group is successful enough, they may completely replace the original group.

Tree dwellers

While most mammals adapted to living on the ground, some adapted to living in the trees. Trees were safe from most predators and they provided a rich diet of fruit and insects. Some tree dwellers evolved fingers and thumbs for grasping onto branches. Long snouts are awkward when clinging to trees, and so their faces became flatter and their eyes moved to the front of their face, allowing better judgment of distances when leaping between trees.

Most animals that live on the ground need to be able to walk soon after they are born. But tree dwellers can cling to their mothers in the same way that their mothers can cling to trees. Being carried around and cared for by their mothers for a longer period of time allowed their brains to evolve to depend more on learned behavior and less on instinct.

Some tree dwellers became too large to walk across the tops of branches and began swinging beneath them instead. Their bodies became too heavy for their tails to act as a counterbalance, and so they lost their tails and developed a more upright posture to keep themselves balanced. Fewer branches could now support their weight. Instead of leaping between trees, they climbed down and walked between them.

The ancestors of humans

Around 7 million years ago, some of these ape-like creatures moved away from the forests and began living on the grass covered plains. As they spent less time in trees and more time traveling across open ground, evolutionary pressure favored those with longer legs, and they began walking upright.

Their hands were no longer needed for walking and could be used for a variety of other tasks such as gathering food or using sticks and stones as weapons. They could now hunt larger animals and carry the meat back to share with the rest of the group. Being able to provide better care for their increasingly helpless infants allowed them to continue to evolve larger brains that were more adapted towards learning. These animals were the early ancestors of humans.

They began breaking stones apart to create sharp edges which could be used to cut wood, meat, and bone. Around one million years ago, they learned how to keep fires burning and began cooking their meals. Cooked food required less chewing and so their jaws evolved to become smaller.

The competition between different groups of early humans was fierce. Those who could make better weapons, and those who were more skilled at using them had a distinct advantage. Increased competition, better parental care, better communication, and an increasingly complex lifestyle, all of these factors drove the evolution of a larger and more adaptable brain. Groups that evolved larger brains outcompeted and replaced groups that did not."

 

You agree with it, don't you?


Oh, sorry...my bad...that question would call on you to state your opinion and defend it. Apologies.

 

Come on...who do YOU want for your "original ancestors".....a cute naked couple who chatted with talking snakes.....or a couple of "ugly racoons"?

 

If they had just left that magic apple out of the story the threesome would have made it just fine.

 

Wow! They were ahead of their time:
https://www.google.com/search?q=mag...rH8mmyASozYLIDg&ved=0CGwQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=635

Also see here:
http://www.scribd.com/book/200194078/The-Magic-Apple-and-his-Mighty-Friends

 

Everyone in this thread is fighting dogma with dogma.
A maximum of one of you is right but you could all be very wrong.
My posts are different because I'm allowing the Bible (true or false) to be its own interpreter.
that is to say, if the author of Genesis is universally believed to be a Hebrew (one author or 10 making no difference as long as they were all Hebrews from roughly the same era) and the words came from human mind rather than divine dictate, is there anything in the story that gives the impression Adam and Eve acted and thought like a Hebrew of the second century BCE?
Only a rabbi or master theologian can give an opinion on that, and most would accept the opinion as probably correct, provided he was answering the question posed in that form.
A different form of answer would come from that same rabbi if he knew the questioner was convinced God did dictate the book of Genesis.
Consider a real possible answer:
Adam and Eve were Jewish in mind and heart because they heard the same messages God gave Moses and obedience to them represents the ideal life. Though perhaps no one will ever obey all the laws faithfully, the close relationship they had with YHWH for those brief days or months in Eden permitted them to abide by the spiritual truth of the LAW and they obeyed all commands perfectly. whatever their color or shape, they remain the only true pure Jews.
Or the alternate answer:
They lived in the trees and if they didn't look like apes they might as well have been apes. The races evolved in 2000 years, just faster than Darwinians believe.
Our map includes countries called USA, Belgium, Bangladesh, Australia and Kenya, and none of those countries, nor any of the dominant attributes of the plurality populations are similar to the residents of those areas 600 or fewer years ago.
Whatever else Adam was, he was not a Jew, because he was never circumcised.

 

Moses is given credit for the first five books in the old testament. It's written in third person. Who was that masked man who was there ...witnessed and told about god, the burning bush and Moses doing their thing?

 

It was the private secretary of Moses who was merely taking a dictation from Moses and was not present at the time of the events dictated by Moses.

 

I just feel sorry for all those poor snakes that were standing up right and having some cool conversations....before God took away their vocal cords and forced them to slither on their bellies..

 

You actually believe that snakes once stood upright? Wow! What an imagination.

 

Moses even wrote about his own death and burial and how the even more genocidal maniac Joshua took over. How cool was that?

 

That's some cool schit.....or as Christians phrase it.....A Blessing

 

I had couldn't help laughing at that one, lol. Too true

 

Moses had just discovered Uranus while sitting high up on that mountain.

He realized how dramatic and important this FACT was. a
And, how not even Pharaoh could stop him, once other people and Aaron could show the "God" of this unseen planet to others.

The rest all makes sense on a somewhat poetic level of explanation.

 

My anus or your anus

 

A couple of new religious movies will soon be out.

Hercules starts July 25.
Spoiler alert: Hercules is the good guy even if he's a Greek demigod.
He defeats monsters that would have been good Bible creatures.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1267297/

Exodus: Gods and Kings will debut December 12.
Spoiler alert: Moses is the good guy and the Pharaoh is the villain.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1528100/

Hercules looks more authentic. The Moses character looks like he should be in a King Arthur movie.

 

I suppose since the bible wasn't illustrated he might have looked like a wharf rat or a coon dawg...you know, about as close as the white Jesus with the blonde hair and blue eyes

 

hahhaaaa...
"Your-Anus" is actually just visible without a telescope.
But it moves between the fixed Stars of the various constellation very slowly.
So it was not noticed until 1362BC when Moses saw it, and again, in 1799 when we discovered it again.

Few people realize that these seven planets were all "gods" to the ancient peoples.
So this discovery seems unimportant until they realize that astrology and myths all were academic arts held in high esteem then.

Finding uranus was a shock to the egyptians, as the planet moved between the branches of the stars in each constellation.
Once Moses and aaron had shown that planet to the people on the streets they were free of Pharaoh and his men since the story moved like flies among the masses.

 

Exactly, that is adaptation within species. The OP question is irrelevant anyways, who cares what race they were? I prefer to remain agnostic in issues God is silent on. Before asking any more silly questions why don't the atheists figure out what set off the Big Bang, or how the first non-life became life.

 

I assume they were Jews, because this is the ethnicity the Bible came from. Without believing Bible, this is absurdity. Scientific answer is in theory of evolution.

 

Actually since Adam & Eve were the progenitors of the Jews they looked like typical Jews. Imagine Adam as Netandyahoo and Eve as Golda Meir.

 

Not a problem.....Gawd was playing with his chemistry set and BANG!!!!