A simple, common sense gun control plan

I've encountered different definitions. I want to make sure I understand exactly what you mean.

 

He makes up lots of stuff, he likely will not commit on this one.

 

Give him a chance.

 

exactly. To ME it means passing up smaller trophies in order to shoot the deer with the biggest rack you can find. Meat hunters will shoot the first legal animal they can ethically harvest general

 

Well, as a trophy hunter I would just like to say: BITE ME!

So how did you arrive at these numbers? I would tend to agree, somewhat, that there should be some scale to it but some things just require extreme punishment. An eagle? Come on. Anyone who would shoot an eagle would shoot his own grandmother. Someone who would do that should have his manhood whacked off and be put behind bars for 3 to 5 in addition to a fine. I believe anyone who has poached a large game animal should be fined an amount several times the value of not only the animal but also all the lost dollars that might have been realized if a legitimate hunter had been spending money on hunting. In addition to the fine the poacher should forfeit any equipment up to and including a vehicle. After fines and forfeitures the poacher should spend time in jail and the loss of hunting and fishing privileges for life, in all states.

 

Now let us analyze this statement, Trophy hunting should bring 5 years in prison,

When does hunting become "Trophy Hunting" When you shake your puny fists in the air and yell, I am Nimrod, TROPHY !
TROPHY !
You get 5 years in prison for what crime ?

 

A squirrel is a pest.
A fancy rat in a suit.
Should get a .50 Bounty.

 

Which means that the older deer are taken out of the gene pool to allow for genetic diversification. I don't care if someone wants to shoot the biggest elk as long as they take all of the meat, too.

I shoot cows.

 

You ever shoot an Elk where packing out the complete animal is impossible ?
Sometimes they die in a most inconvenient virtually inaccessible area that only allows limited meat removal and you bury the rest.

 

30 years as a prosector-based it on other crimes.

I don't know about jail time for poachers. we put too many people in jail as it is and the turns them into more vicious criminals

 

No, but I use the boneless method for taking the meat. Don't carry no bones, and I've got a pack that can carry any load. Not the back for it, though

 

It does have very tough gun laws. In some cases too tough

 

If you can remove "limited meat" then you can go back for it all. If you do not have the ability to drop an animal where it stands or are not able to pack out the meat from where the animal dies then maybe you shouldn't be hunting an animal that large.

 

You do know what an Elk is right ?

We are not talking about a small rum Deer, and if you can carry 1/2 the meat of an Elk, you must rival Sampson or Hercules
for strength !!!

You would need to limit hunting to areas accessible to pack mules or some sort of motorised 4 wheel machine.

 

Perhaps you should refrain from silly postings, it only makes you more foolish than providence intended.

You obviously are either purposely obtuse or have not shot an animal that bolted before it died and plunged itself into a ravine.

Not much of a hunter either.

 

Interesting. With that idea maybe we should not put any white-collar criminals or car thieves in jail. We wouldn't want to take criminals and make vicious criminals out of them. Where do we draw the line on crimes for jail or no jail? Bernie Madoff was not vicious maybe we should let him out.

 

Your post makes some interesting assumptions.

 

So if a man poached a Deer to feed his family, children, etc, stuff him in jail ?
Right ?
A wild animal in the forest, not some pet, or Milk cow etc.....
And Deer in many States are over populated and under hunted anyway.

Perhaps Justice should be tempered by mercy in such cases ?

 

I am not assuming anything such as you are doing from the comfort of your armchair hunting p.c. games, I limit my shots to less than 100 yards and try not to shoot game out of conservative limits, however, unintended stuff sometime happens.

Like a deer leaping and rolling in a death twist and falling into crevase and wedged in tight to require 2 hours to winch out in quarters.

 

Yeah, I know what an elk is. We just use multiple guys or take multiple trips. Haul a quarter at a time. It may take a couple of days to get it out, but we know that going in. Boning it out saves a good bit of weight.

 

I have done it alone, a mule and a few days to get it done, hard work, I just balk at people trying to make crimes out of stuff.
Not one to waste meat in any case.

 

There are times I would have paid for a mule. Starting at 12k above sea level makes hauling 80 lbs on your back a pain in the arse.

 

They hide in glass cases in schools

 

I visit AK to fish one a year and violations of fishing laws can be pretty severe. While I have never hunted in AK, I know from my visits, game law violations can be pretty severe as well, even failure to report self defense killings of bears or moose can be severe and are often investigated not unlike murders. In The AK, waste of meat from a harvest from hunting can also be fined pretty heavily. It’s one of the few places where I have encountered more wildlife officers checking licenses, looking for fishing and hunting law violations, etc. and once witnessed a couple fellows arrested for crabing violations of some sort which my buddy likely cost them their boat and equipment at minimum.

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=554

One thing AK has is subsistence hunting, two tiers of that, but only for residents. When I went through college in the lower, I subsisted hunted and fished, but observed all the required permits.

 

I've read that in Alaska, the rack is the last thing brought out - all the meat has to be recovered first.