A Study of Jewish Identity Politics.

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I like that "enrich themselves" great anti-semitic covespeak.

    Ever ask yourself why?


    Now now marlowe, that's a good boy, stop your crying, one day if you keep working really hard can become more odious and arrogant than anyone. I do admire the fact you aspire to something.
     
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    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    Iolo appears to be a critic of racism, and thus your enemy.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All a matter of perspective. what you claim is defending racists, I claim in many instances it is defending those wrongly accused of racism.

    I didn't have to go far, but if you were personally offended, I apologize.

    What are you talking about. Please explain in simple terms I might understand exactly what racial hatred you are talking about and how (with an example) I am using it to defend apartheid Israel (although I reject that description).

    Racism is not on my political agenda. I abhor it and it actually scopes my own bigotry. I proudly hate neo-nazis, white power pin heads, and violent/abusive religious fanatics of all stripes. the only non bigot group I am bigotted against are peodophiles.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh dear. Iolo is a anti semite who revels in playing the nazi card every chance he gets. He is like a broken record that adds absolutely no value to any discussion, other than waving his swastika.
     
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    Or maybe you are obsessing about trying to pin one on a non-existent button hole?
     
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    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    It is not a matter of perpective. When people generalize against all Arabs, all Muslims, all Swiss, etc. They are expressing racist generalizations. You are defensive of such generalizations, meaning that your platform is heavily racist.

    In several occasions, you've defended a character here who is infamous for making racist generalizations. Your defense of such racism defines your political platform as being racist.

    I share these positions, so why do you insult me in defense of some other forum members who are heavily racist?
     
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    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    I've seen no evidence that Iolo hates any Semites, while his/her writings are strongly anti-Nazi. Why do you oppose anti-Nazi interests?
     
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    I have met some nice Israelis and I respect the writings of some Israelis. Other Israelis commonly misuse and abuse the memory of the Holocaust, but not all Israelis are like that.
     
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    I've seen no evidence either. I think it's a canard that indicates Jonsa's uneasiness regarding the historical links between Zionism and Nazism that he appears to be in denial of.
     
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    Well, he is 70 years to late to fight the Nazis, the real problem today is anti-western, anti-american and anti-Israel islamo-nazism and he is unfortunately part of the movement. You don't support anti-american, anti-western, anti-israel islamo-nazis, do you? You won't commit the sins that your Swiss ancestors committed when they financed the Nazis. Right?
     
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    Or maybe it's simply a case that he is pro-justice which seems like a more realistic scenario?
     
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    Hmm, not really. He is perpetually enraged and one of the most one-sided, biased and radical posters. Perhaps in your world such people represent justice, in Kazakhstan they represent fringe and extremism :)
     
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    Maybe, that would be a fair point if he was a Kazakhstani. I know in Uzbeckistan they boil political dissidents alive in vats of oil as British diplomat Craig Murray pointed out in his autobiography and was dismissed from his post for the privilege...But that's another story.
     
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    Some say that anti-Semitism is a relevant problem in Kazakhstan:

    Borat is a raving anti-Semite, fond of such Kazakh traditions as "The Running of the Jew."
    http://www.slate.com/id/2152789/

    Such could certainly explain the anti-Nazi opposition of some Zionists.
     
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    I don't see postings by 'Jonsa' because his grasp on the truth is a little too weak for my delicate stomach, but I don't hate anyone, I like Jews and my family have always opposed anti-Semitism for as far back as I have any record of them. Such things, of course, are immaterial to the likes of 'Jonsa' because all he cares about is the survival of the nazi régime occupying Palestine and the continuation of its murders. Beliefs such as his reduce their holders far below the human level, in my view. What is the point of chatting to mad dogs?
     
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    As there's nothing informatve in you posts, I hope you at least felt better after that littl;e rant.

    Au revoir .
     
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    Nonsense. First, the people you defend generalize and express hatred towards an entire group of people, then smarmily qualify that hatred by claiming not all are bad. Its the old "i'm not prejudice, some of my best friends are Black/Jew/Muslim/etc.

    Your deductive conclusion is both illogical and spurious.


    I defend no racism. I defend realpolitik. Because of your entrenched perpectives you erroneously beleive that defence of a rational point is somehow racist, that defence of the person making that point is racist.
    You may have noticed that on rare occaisions I have actually agreed with some of your buddies.

    Again your conclusions about me illogical and spurious and even salacious. However, I can say that your opinion of me is not something that keeps me up at night.

    But its okay for you to defend racists. Marlowe is a anti-semite of the first order. As is zulu1 and moon. Iolo only knows how to play a broken nazi record. YOu defend them, and I don't take insult to that. If I use your logic, you are equally a racist and have a racist political platform.
     
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    Naturally you can't take it when your own tactics are used against you.
    Please be careful and don't trip while you practice your goosestep.
     
  19. Marlowe

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    Especially when they're foaming , you might get rabbis , or is it rabies ? . :)
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't doubt you don't see any evidence. After all, the heinous and salacious use of nazi comparisons is something you emotionally agree with, despite the intellectual dishonesty of such.


    I do not deny any historical links, because I am totally aware of them. I also understand the contemporary motivations for such links. You on the other hand seem only to use these links as an implication of zionist acceptance of nazi genocide, which is simply a stupid conclusion.
     
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    Can't resist the nazi comparison. Its like a disease with you.

    Its okay, I don't consider you a mad dog.

    "I like jews" - yeah right. Apart from saying that, I have never seen any evidence of that being remotely true.
     
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    You really should post on the comedy subforum at stormfront. You'd kill em. they laugh at all those old worn out racist jokes.
     
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    Like you , I've also read of several learned + respectable writers and political commentators . I cant say I've ever found had any disputes with any of our (British ) Jewish countrymen . Perhaps, its my fault for expecting the same or similar civility from Israelis I met during my brief visit to that country.

    In contrast, the non-Jews /Druze /Palestinians I met there were by far very different .

    I can only say as I've found, thankfully my own experience was NOT quite as bad as this - I was'nt there with a camera crew + I backed away from confrontations with petty officials .


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fwXlVBiOA8"]How the Israelis treat the Christians - YouTube[/ame]


    cheers...
     
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    Gertcha. o!o
     
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    Not nonsense. Racist generalizations are racist and your defense of such is racist. Unlike you, I criticize hatred regardless of who expresses such.

    That's how you see things since you do not seem to oppose racism.

    Then why don't you raise your voice against racism instead of insulting me for criticizing such?

    I've seen no evidence that zulu1, moon or Iolo hate anyone. They may, at times be strongly critical of Zionism, but Zionism is often heavily racist. Thus, why did you not include the names of those heavily racist Zionists who's hatred you do not lift a finger against? If you can't even criticize those who are obviously racist, then how can one take your views seriously concerning those who's political criticism may be questionable?

    Often, I find that many Zionist carelessly toss around the anti-Semite card while blasting Semites with racist hatred, and you seem to be no different on the matter. You are not against racism, but rather you are just against criticism of Zionism.
     
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