A Third Party Would Rock!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by YouLie, Sep 26, 2013.

  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    It's STILL better than 3 (likely) WEAK factions.

    We'd do better to get BIG MONEY out of government, than add to artificial divisions.
     
  2. Bluespade

    Bluespade Banned

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    Even though I agree with getting big money out of the way, you are wrong about artificial barriers. We suffer from a two party monopoly. Look how other countries have multiple parties sharing power to form coalitions to govern, there's no where near the disfunction we see by a govern by crisis president, and a inept partisan congress.
     
  3. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    I generally disagree. But some number of years after I have passed away... reality may prove you to be correct. For now, I don't buy it.
     
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    So be it, you're entitled to your views.
     
  5. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Yep. True.
     
  6. Flaming Moderate

    Flaming Moderate New Member Past Donor

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    Now this is funny!

    It may be the first time since its creation that the Democrats have been accused of being a unified force. The party that brought you the Dixiecrats, the Blue Dog Democrats, Eugene Mcarthy, and was forever immortalized by Will Rogers when he said, "I am not a member of any organized party. I'm a Democrat."
     
  7. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You want big money out of government and you expect to accomplish that by maintaining the duopoly that is already controlled by...big money?
     
  8. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    We don't need another 'party' to manage that. Please, be reasonable.
     
  9. Bluespade

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    You should take your own advice about being reasonable. Sorry but your dismissive and snarky attitude doesn't undo the fact that both parties are prone to corruption and the influences of lobbyists. Nevermind the fact that independent voters are going to outnumber voters of both parties. Will a third party be immune to the problems facing the lesser of two evil parties, maybe not
    But people deserve to represented by a party that shares their convictions. Your abstract notion of division and national unity is completely lacking common sense .
     
  10. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Stay on-topic please.
     
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    I'm doing just that. How about trying to acknowledge the obvious for once.

    By the way, copin attitude with people then playing victim is pretty childish.
     
  12. Johnny-C

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    Great!!
     
  13. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Expecting the two major parties that are controlled by big money to not suddenly change their stripes is perfectly reasonable. I have decades of history supporting that expectation. Whether a third party would remedy that is yet to be seen but it is absurd to expect the two parties to fix a problem that they created and with which they are perfectly content.
     
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    Unifying? Do the unifying ends justify the divisive means?
     
  15. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    If you pay attention to what I say... then you would realize/know that I don't expect much significant change in any single lifetime or generation. But I am absolutely certain that time can/will change virtually anything in the most significant of ways. So, things changing "suddenly" (especially for the better) isn't something I tend to expect.
     
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    The GOP is always getting butt fu'kd by democrats. Every election is "We have to stop Obama!" "We have to stop Hilary!" They usually do this by electing the worst GOP member they can find and then complain about it. After years of this brilliant strategy they will never win the white house again unless they want to move futher left of the democrats, but what is the point?

    At least they are marginalized and we don't need to listen to their lame arguments and obsessions about the "sanctity of marriage" and other Christian nonsense.
     
  17. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great, so you just lie down and accept that big money controls our government and will likely continue to do so for the rest of your natural life. Complacency like that is a large part of the reason that it continues unabated. You, sir, have no business complaining about it. Let the people who haven't already surrendered take care of this. Your attitude is of no use to anyone except for those moneyed interests that you whine about.
     
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    Well said! the type our "friend " expresses in Politics ,reminds me of the betrayal of the German Working Class by Stalinism .

    Hitler rose to power ,without the most politically advanced Working Class being mobilised.

    http://defendthedia.org/

    For instance as we speak ,the Wall Street Pillage continues, putting their money stenched fingers on the Art Treasures of the USA!

    Not tomorrow but yesterday !

    DEFEND THE DIA!
     
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    "Well that's what a third party is. A spoiler."

    Taxutter says;
    That's why they are unworthy of votes or credibility.
     
  20. Johnny-C

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    No, I do not. But I'm prudent enough to realize and accept that I cannot change all of what is before me; and certainly not by myself or even in my own lifetime.

    That is reality.
     
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    If you think that politicians are not bought and paid for then you are beyond naive.
     
  22. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's all great and wonderful. My point still stands that the complacency that you exhibit is beyond useless.
     
  23. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Your point only stands in your mind. (You don't know me.)
     
  24. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I (don't have to know you) to see the uselessness in the complacency that you exhibit.

    Two different things,

    There is,
    1.) you (who, as you've pointed out, I don't know)

    Then there is,
    2.) the complacency that you exhibit (which you've already exhibited and which I have seen)
     
  25. Johnny-C

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    Well yes, to actually submit such an assuming and inept assessment of me... you surely lack the knowledge you pretend to possess.

    I admit that I don't know you; I'm not about to under/overestimate you; not a single iota.
     

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