ABC news: How to survive a mass shooting

My local ABC news here in southern California had a small segment on how to survive a mass shooting.

They started out the segment by saying that law enforcement nearly always gets to the scene after the shooting takes place. So, essentially they are admitting that you can't count on the police to save you.

Then they proceed to talk about things you can do to survive the shooting.

Some things they mentioned were...play dead, spray the attacker in the face with a fire extinguisher, be aware of where the exits are, hide behind a solid object, etc....which are all good things to know.

But what really got me was that there was not one mention of arming yourself with a gun, or how to obtain a CCW permit in CA., or that CA. isn't a "shall issue" state, or that you need a "good cause" to get a permit in CA, or that "self-defense" is not a good enough cause according to California.

Gee. Just think of that for a moment. "Self-defense" is not a good enough cause according to California

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/how-survive-mass-shooting/npbKb/

 

This does need to be talked about.

As we watch these events unfold it's evident that it's the local beat cop that is the first responder and the one that has the most effect. It's not swat, not the fbi, but locals as it always is.

In that we need to rethink who and what we are arming and training. Swat works fine for drug dealers ensconced in dens but of little to zero help with Islamic terrorists. It's done and over by the time swat or the Fbi responds.

San Bernardino speaks to this. The locals where on this, stopped it and kept the narrative to reality. Thank you San Bernardino cops.

Cheers
Labour

 

Here's what I would do.

1. Get a gun, learn to use it and carry it.
2. Ignore all signs or avoid all public places that don't allow hand guns.

 

I guess that putting out rounds was not part of the equation?

 

No and it is so discordant.

Anyone with a brain can see the timeline. When a shooter, slasher bomber become active ALL deaths are within minutes from inception. There is zero chance, save luck, that police will save the day. It might be the local beat cop but it will never be swat or the fbi, never ever.

For that five to ten minutes we are on our own. Life or death.

Isreals model is to have armed citizens and beat cops ubiquitous. It works, rarely does a bad actor kill more than one before being neutralized by an armed citizen.

Give it a couple more Islamic inspired attacks and Isreals model will be incorporated here.

Cheers
Labour

 

One or two more "Muslim" incidents and all of those talking trash about Trump will be rethinking their comments.

 

I think pretty soon we may begin seeing people carry more and more, with or without a permit.

 

Agreed and it will get ugly. It's why I feel taking a hard line now saves larger issues later. Let the American public get really riled up, no adherent of the Muslim faith will be safe.

Counterintuitive as it may sound it's reality.

Cheers
Labour

 

California is a wise State.

 

Only wise for criminals, thugs, rapists, robbers, terrorists, and illegal immigrants.

For law-abiding citizens? Not so much.

 

That must be why you're in Arizona

 

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....as opposed to a wall made out of jello. ( Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon.)

 

+1
Continuing the absurd, suicidal policies of the idiot left only lead to a bigger backlash, when it comes. I see this in Europe already, & it will increase in the US if the progressives are not kicked out of office, & fired from positions of collective authority. THEY are the ones building a backlash against muslims, & they could stop it with common sense immigration policy. But they are not deterred by common sense or reality, & insist on their way of appeasement & apology for islamic terror. All they do is make themselves complicit in the goal of the destruction of America, & make the war worse. Just like Chamberlain did with Hitler, so the progressive left is with islamic terror. They appease & apologize, when we should be opposing & eliminating them.

 

I think you are right.

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Said while living in Arizona. LMFAO!

 

It is a trash heap for ignorance and stupidity when it comes to the politicians running the asylum. Arizona has been modeling it for a few decades now.

 

Yeah, like the Crybully feminists on discussing how to defend against a rapist. They advocted vomiting, urinating on yourself, etc. Completely ignored the idea of putting many holes in the perp with a firearm.

 

seems like that is the plan the liberals want, notice how they do everything in their power to erode faith in law enforcement. Chaos, hate, and distrust like we see in major cities such as Chicago is the best weapon the UN has to destroy the USA.

 

Thankfully we have our 2nd amendment and can start right now.

It's our duty as reasonable thinking citizens to ignore gun laws that prevent us from defending
ourselves.

 

Molon, where do you live in So Cal?

I lived in Corona for 21 years which is a conservative city in a conservative county (to everyone reading this, California conservative is not the same as conservative as most of the country knows it) and the police there really didn't frown on gun ownership. The cops I talked to pretty said it's smart to have a gun but using it could really screw a person. Even shooting a person who breaks into your home could lead to prosecution and lawsuits if the crook lives.

 

Dang gum man, you are a laugh a minute

 

Realistically, out of every 2000 murdered in the US, one is a victim of terrorism, and mass killings are comparatively quite rare.

The carnage might well be worse if one were to occur in a crowded locale where every jamoke were to whip out a shooty and started blasting away.

There are too many far more likely calamities that might befall one. You may as well spend the time contemplating how you'll spend your millions when you win the lottery.

 

When I was a DOD contractor, we had annual training for active shooters, and how to respond. abc pretty much followed that

 

I live in South Orange County.

Owning a gun is not the problem.

The problem is that in CA, the sheriff of your county is the one making the rules on who can and cannot have a CCW permit and since CA says you must have a "good cauase" to obtain a CCW permit, the chances of you getting a CCW permit is dependent on your sheriff.

Counties with very pro-gun rights sheriffs, "self-defense" is a good enough justification to have a CCW permit.

In counties like Los Angeles or Orange County, "self-defense" is NOT a good enough justification to have a CCW permit.

 

[video=youtube;YzagUGGBJa4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzagUGGBJa4[/video]

 

I haven't seen the video....

But I'm going to guess with 99.9% certainty that the actor who played the mass murderer is white.

He has to be.

If he was any other color, I'd have heard about this already from the pushy left.