ABC/WaPo Poll: Support for Border Wall Soars Among Swing Voters

Not only do I have a clue, I linked you to multiple studies that prove it in depth.

And where did I say that there weren't low skill white workers?

THEY suffer the same from illegals.

You should come out to california, and see the illegals that are doing those jobs.

Its going to get around to your neck of the woods one day as well.

 

Its not knowledge, its an anecdote.

And I linked you to several high level studies.

 

It's been around my neck of the woods for decades, they mainly do the jobs Americans DON'T want to do.

 

Highly level studies, hell I am giving you a first hand study.

 

So what do you say to the unskilled poor black kid looking for a job?

 

Logic fail.

Anecdotal evidence is evidence from anecdotes, i.e., evidence collected in a casual or informal manner and relying heavily or entirely on personal testimony. When compared to other types of evidence, anecdotal evidence is generally regarded as limited in value due to a number of potential weaknesses, but may be considered within the scope of scientific method as some anecdotal evidence can be both empirical and verifiable, e.g. in the use of case studies in medicine. Other anecdotal evidence, however, does not qualify as scientific evidence, because its nature prevents it from being investigated by the scientific method.

Where only one or a few anecdotes are presented, there is a larger chance that they may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise non-representativesamples of typical cases.[1][2] Similarly, psychologists have found that due to cognitive bias people are more likely to remember notable or unusual examples rather than typical examples.[3] Thus, even when accurate, anecdotal evidence is not necessarily representative of a typical experience. Accurate determination of whether an anecdote is typical requires statistical evidence.[4] Misuse of anecdotal evidence is an informal fallacy and is sometimes referred to as the "person who" fallacy ("I know a person who..."; "I know of a case where..." etc.) which places undue weight on experiences of close peers which may not be typical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

 

The same thing you say to the unskilled poor white kid looking for a job.

 

Your answer would be to tell him he doesn't actually want that job.

 

No, my answer would be that you guys claim black unemployment is at an all time low and there are plenty of jobs out there. So if illegals are taking all the jobs from black folks how is black unemployment at an all time low?

 

Its at an all time low because the economy is booming and there is demand.

Thats distinctly different than the fact that competition over low skilled jobs hurts blacks the most.

Black unemployment is still higher than Hispanic, white, Asian unemployment.

 

There is the resident racialist in action. Right on cue. Too funny.

 

That’s hilarious. Come’on man. Think it through before embarrassing yourself. Some reading of the US Civil Rights Commission report referenced upthread will help you out.

 

So why wouldn't there be a job for him?

Why doesn't it hurt whites equally if that is the case.

Of course it is, it always has been and now is no different. It is also on the rise and it is not because of illegals.

 

You are the embarrassment, you are running that DS and can't tell us what jobs they are taking.

 

It doesen't hurt whites equally because there are more blacks are a percentage who are low skilled.

 

Try hard to be realistic:

The issue of a wall was proposed as a way to slow illegal immigration long before Trump made it his signature 2016 campaign pledge. Gallup has asked about it using various question wordings, but all polls have shown a majority opposed. Gallup first asked about it in 1993, when 71% said they opposed "erecting a wall along the border with Mexico." Opposition eased slightly in 1995, when 62% were against erecting a wall. In 2006, opposition to "building a wall along the border with Mexico" was 56%.​

Public opposition to a border wall had increased by 2016, when Trump was pushing construction of the wall. Sixty-six percent opposed "building a wall along the entire U.S.-Mexico border" in June of that year.

The current poll was conducted Jan. 21-27; slightly more than two-thirds of the respondents (69%) were interviewed before Trump ended the shutdown. There is no significant difference in views of the wall between those interviewed during the shutdown and those interviewed after it.

Clear majorities of U.S. adults in the latest poll support two other actions related to immigration, while rejecting a third.

[*] The vast majority of Americans (81%) favor allowing immigrants living illegally in the U.S. "the chance to become U.S. citizens if they meet certain requirements over a period of time." In 2016, the year Trump was elected president, 84% were in favor of a path to citizenship for those in the country illegally.​

[*] Though a majority of Americans reject major expansion of walls on the U.S.-Mexico border, three-fourths of the public favors another method of increasing border security -- the hiring of "significantly more" border patrol agents.​

[*] Sixty-one percent oppose deporting all illegal immigrants back to their home country. In 2016, 66% were in opposition.​

Since Trump's election, the proportion of Americans wanting to increase immigration levels has grown -- from 21% in June 2016 to a record-high 30% now.

The percentage of Americans who want immigration levels decreased has been higher than those wanting it increased in every one of the 33 polls Gallup has conducted on the issue since 1965. However, the current one-point gap ties with the June 2018 poll for the smallest ever. Before Trump's election, the percentage preferring a decrease in immigration averaged 31 points higher than the percentage wanting an increase.

Since Trump's election, the proportion of Americans wanting to increase immigration levels has grown -- from 21% in June 2016 to a record-high 30% now.
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/246455/solid-majority-opposes-new-construction-border-wall.aspx

We'll see.

Why doesn't Trump come up with a comprensive strategy for the border that includes a wall in some areas along with whatever a wall requires as backup?

Another shutdown? Won't go over well.

 

And you can’t be bothered to understand the truth from the US Civil Rights Commission because you are a pathetic racialist. That’s disgusting.

 

Lets find out together. Dems have until Valentines day.

 

Republicans are getting the worst of it, so far.

Why can't someone come up with a comprehensive plan for dealing with immigration, legal and illegal? We need an e-verify program that works, electronic work and visitor visas, enhanced port of entry, fences, more border patrol agents, more ICE beds, more immigration judges, changes to family reunification--spouses and minor children, not aunts, uncles, cousins--and a resolution for DACA kids.

As far as I can tell, both sides are playing to their base and the hell with a solution.

 

We don't need to be comprehensive, canada.

There are law abiding folks and those who violate the law.

Today, imo you are victim of your own propaganda. IMO

 

I support the wall. It is the law of the land so get it built and stop whining.

 

Bury me softly in this world.

 

Add the wall and you have the R plan.

 

Not at all surprised to see support grow after that amazing SOTU!

 

So, we don't need a program of effective eforcement measures? We should let "family reunification" be truly "chain migration?" We don't need more ICE agents, immigration beds, and immigration judges? We don't need an effective e-verify program? All we need is for people ignoring the law because it isn't enforced to go along with your program.

Maybe you're the victim of your propaganda.