Abortion ban amendment shot down in Kansas doesn't bode well for Repubss

Hahaha! You are wrong.

It isn't Republicans who sent the issue back to the states. The republican boogy man created by lefties does not exist. This just shows that democracy works and the fear mongering done by democrats is ridiculous.

 

Here’s the thing. Most people do not like late term abortions. Most people also do not want an all out ban on abortions. Just because the states got their constitutional right to control abortions back does not change that fact. That’s why I never understood why liberals wigged out over it to begin with. People will vote down what they don’t like in the long run. That’s including Texas. I personally don’t like any abortion that is not life threatening. Doesn’t mean I don’t know I’m in the minority. But what I am a huge fan of is states rights. I’m glad they got it back and it looks like it’s not all that scary for the pro abortion people is it.

 

Sounds like quite the authoritarian plot to use morals as an excuse to enforce your personal will.

 

I was going to say the same thing about the other side.

One side is demanding rights for the woman, one side is demanding rights to the baby.

You dont get to have the government sweep in and decide what reality is, and those that disagree be damned. It will be decided by the majority state to state in how they vote.

 

Except babies have rights...
A fetus does not. But you are free to identify your fetus as a baby.

You want state laws to decide policy based on how people identify? Interesting.

 

That “it’s a human when it’s born” arguement was abandoned by abortionists long ago. At 9 months, it’s the same entity one minute before birth as it is one minute after. Same at 8 months, 7 months, etc.

Abortion is a deliberate attempt to kill the baby. Babies birthed early due to medical necessity or accident are being birthed, not aborted, and if they die it’s not abortion.

Viability is around 22-24 weeks at this level of medical care.

 

Really? There's nothing to prevent passage of more federal laws banning abortion.

Self-censorship?

 

You don't give a damn about women's basic right to control their bodies.

 

Says you. I say they do. Further more I say you all but negate your rights if you willfully chose to do the one thing that brought it into existence. And I am not alone. You can't "shush" me. And you are going to have to deal with that arguement. I say science dictates what it is. And I reject any argument that demands it isn't what it is unless it's developed a certain arbitrary charactaristic first because you don't want to be on the hook for nutting inside the vagina.

At conception the entire blueprints of this new and unique and seperate human life are created. And all it needs is a chance to grow into a human adult. A process that doesn't stop for 25 years.

That's the reality. Stomping up and down on the spot is unbecoming.

 

Yeah, sure—screw the Constitution. Women's rights? Nah. We'll make their rights subject to majority rule.

 

I never said anything about human or not.
I said it's a fetus till its excluded from being that.
How you identify your fetus is your freedom.

 

Yeah, sure --screw the Consitution. Child's rights?

Nah. We'll make their rights subject to majority rule.

 

So you are for granting privlages based on how you identify. Not science. I heard you the first time.

 

Children already have rights.
Fetal privlages is the correct term. And you want them to supersede a woman's liberty.

 

Interfering in a womans right to bodily autonomy is certainly an egregious level of overreach. If only there was a party that actually opposed abuse of power and overreach. Ds and Rs are just pushing their own brand of abuse.

 

At conception the individual human life you just created

- has it's own dna
- it's own blood type
- has all the blue prints to know;
hieght
eye color
hair color
sex
skin shade

That's what you've created. A new unique human life as seperate from the mother but whom relies on the mother for survival for the first few months of it's life as it should. Since the mother created it willingly.

 

So, who's trying to shut you up? Crying before you're hit?

No need to concern ourselves with your argument.

This muddled thinking is based on science?

Your version of "reality" based on your religious beliefs?

I agree. You should stop doing it.

 

Make sure to take that into consideration next time you read about someone claiming the castle doctrine.
I'm sure most don't care about any of that when protecting their own liberty.

 

Since it's no longer a federal court ruling...ya. You are going to have our argument shoved up in your face. Deal with it.

Yes.

What at all is not true about that statement you quoted? Plus, I'm not religious.

I'm not at all upset that Roe v Wade was rightfully shot down.

 

I see no difference.

 

What an assinine comparisson. If you compared the castle doctrine, then you would have had to of INVITED THE PERSON OVER JUST TO KILL THEM.

Smart one...

 

So the states will be forcing their ideology.

 

The states will rule as the people wish them to. Welcome to how we govern.

 

Yep, that's a thing.

 

We know, you have made it abundantly clear you feel the state should be able to regulate personal liberty.