Oh I see.....Anders. Anders again. Are you obsessed with him or what? Why pick on him..isn't he one of your own? He is pro-abortion isn't he? You would have that in common. As for sandpaper. That is not cruel enough. A razor sharp knife would be more like it. That is what they use to kill many fetuses...that and a vacuum.
Isn't it fascinating that he is fixated on sandpaper rubbing against a woman, when the act he is promoting rips a child in utero limb from limb while the child is still alive?
I mean sandpaper would not kill anyone. Don't they know what violence happens in the womb? The child is captive and can't move....and then they kill it..does not matter if it feels pain...its killed. Can you imagine trying to run away from something painful that was happening and you could not go anywhere? No one there to help you....
Thank you for once again proving that the Anti-Choice/Anti-Freedom crowd is all about PUNISHING WOMEN and NOTHING ELSE! Your posts do wonders for thre Pro-Choice/Pro-Women/Pro-Freedom side BTW, are you recommending these inhumane Nazi-like punishments for yourself???
Hey Church, When you see them shout and jump up and down like this you know you have them pegged and they are squirming. Keep up the good work.
Now you are for late term abortion aren't you? You would think of denying a woman the right to her own body would you? Yes or no........do you deny women the right to abort? Whaler...lets see how far this one runs. Because if he answers no against late term...then he is doing exactly what he says we have no right to do. If a woman owns her body...she should not have to give up any rights that go along with it. And well....if anyone would be anti-woman and a hypocrite it would be the pro-choicer who took this right away. They should be ticked off...fighting for WOMANS RIGHTS...TO KILL....EVEN IN THE NINTH MONTH. So WhatNow?...what say you about womans rights? LMAO
Well church its obvious can't you see, it is a baby but it's not. It is when it is convenient for it to be, but not when it isn't.
Couldn't address anything in the post of mine you quoted: Originally Posted by WhatNow!? Thank you for once again proving that the Anti-Choice/Anti-Freedom crowd is all about PUNISHING WOMEN and NOTHING ELSE! Your posts do wonders for thre Pro-Choice/Pro-Women/Pro-Freedom side BTW, are you recommending these inhumane Nazi-like punishments for yourself??? LMAO
Black people are clearly living humans. Having human DNA does not necessarily make that entity a living human. (heart cells blood cells all have human DNA and these are not living humans) There is no " squirming around like a baby" in the early stages of pregnancy.
You have not ever explained the "why" for your premise that a single cell at conception is a living human. If you have no legitimate argument for your position "its killing babies" then why do you keep on making this silly claim. I have never questioned whether or not the fetus was alive. It is silly lifers that seem to want to claim that life begins at conception. Any Biologist will tell you that both egg and sperm are alive and animate does not come from inanimate. The is never a point where the single cell not alive. Even through the process of its formation the cell is alive and all the cells that are involved in the process of creating of a living human are alive. Just because something is "alive" and contains human DNA does not make it a living human. This seems to confuse you but I don't know why it is so hard to understand that a single human cell (heart, brain and so forth) is not a human. The process of constructing a human goes through phases. One of these phases is the fetus which is a broad time period. The question is not "when is the fetus alive". The cells that make up the fetus are always alive. The question I think you should be asking is "when is the construction of the human complete enough for that entity to be considered a living human"
Whaler...how many women refer to the life inside them as a fetus at any stage? LOL Its a fetus if its aborted a baby if its kept. "Hey Jan have you felt the fetus move yet?" "Hey Jan when was that fetus shower? "Hey Jan congrats on the news of the fetus." "Yes, we are having a fetus." "My husband and I have two children and a fetus on the way." "Boy are you carrying that fetus low." "When is the fetus due?" "Who is your fetus doctor?" "Hey do you know the sex of your fetus yet?" And they should rename Baby's R Us.....to Fetus R Us. It must really offend pro-aborts.... that name....BABY...just repulses them. LMAO
I started a thread called.....Life at conception.....there is information addressing this there. I am not going to repost the same stuff over and over...in all the threads.
I have decimated all of his silly psuedo science nonsense already, no need to bother. - - - Updated - - - I noticed that many will slip up and use the term "mother" to refer to the pregnant woman. How can she be a mother when what is inside her is just a meaningless clump of cells? Their position makes no sense at all.
Please spare me the "I proved this in another thread". I went through all your points in excruciating detail. Your information did not support your premise most of the time and when it did it was opinion. Never was "the why" given. You have no valid scientific rational for your proposition that a single human cell is a living human. Just because you run away when your points are refuted does not make them valid later on.
i jsut gave you expert testimony from more credible sources than you have ever given. You have no clue...no comprehension about this subject.....none, nada. So you are debunking every expert on the three pages i gave? Lmao
I debunked every one with subject matter experts that actually gave an explanation for their claims. You don't need a whole raft of experts mouse. All you need to do is come up with a valid proposition that has an explanation attached to it. So far you have not done so. Why is it that a the single human cell at conception should be classified as a living human and why. What is your best argument ?
Looks like Mouse has run away once again when faced with having to give valid support for premise. Anyone else have valid argument for why the single cell at conception should be classified as a living human ?
You have already had your backside handed to you repeatedly on this subject, back for more? - - - Updated - - - Why are you fixated on a single cell at conception when those are very very very rarely if ever aborted. What about fetuses who are actually aborted regularly, how about getting back on topic and discussing them? So, is a human fetus a human being?
Wow ... that is a riveting argument on par with all your others thus far. Anything to avoid the stark reality that you have no justification for your silly premise. The single cell at conception is where the debate starts. The anti abortion movement claims that this single human cell is a living human. What I have yet to hear is a valid argument for this premise. Did you have one ?
The usage of "baby" in these circumstances is purely an emotional attachment response and has no relevance in the scientific realms of the abortion debate, and I have already, repeatedly, shown that its usage is incorrect .. it is in the same ballpark as using the word "gay" to refer to homosexuals. The etymology of the word baby is as follows; As you can clearly see in its original form it has no relation to the fetus in the womb, and neither does it have relevance in the scientific world.
and you are correct, the term used should be pregnant woman or possibly expectant mother .. however the pro-choice side don't use the word as a form of evidence to support their viewpoint, which is what the pro-life side so with the word "baby" .. wrongly of course.
That is nonsense. Baby is a term expecting mothers use all the time to describe their child in utero. They don't say "my embryo" or "my fetus", they say "my baby". You don't like it because it exposes the savagery that abortion is even more. - - - Updated - - - Lets talk about abortions shall we? Is a fetus a human being? edited for off topic and flaming
And what does that have to do with what the word means today???. Clue: if you have to dig back to the 1600s to find support for your definition of a word, you lost the argument.
I asked you for your best scientific argument for why a single human cell should be classified as a living human and the best you can come up with is "its a figure of speech?" Whaler - when someone says China is a "sleeping giant" they do not actually mean that literally. It is a figure of speech. When someone calls you a "couch potato", this does not mean that you have literally turned into a vegetable that grows on a couch. Just because a woman does not call her pregnancy a fetus or embryo, does not mean that this is not scientifically correct terminology. Regardless you have not made an argument because you have not explained "the why". An argument would go something like this: A single human cell should be classified as a living human on the basis of a figure of speech used by an expectant mother "because"..... Where is the because statement that supports your premise ?
