Abortion Leading Global Cause of Death in 2021 with 43 Million Killed

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    FoxHastings said:
    And no one is obligated to use contraception.




    Did I say you said they were? NO.

    I added a COMMENT


    :) And from your comments I doubt you are as unbiased as you profess to be ;)

    Since when is a statement a "provocation" ?

    When you can't address it ? ;)
     
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    Which doesn't affect my post in any way.
     
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    May I just say FH, that your tenacious grip on defending women come what may is preventing not just a clear understanding of what others say, (you haev not at all grasped the central conflict I thought I had made clear) but is contradictory due to the singular need to prove something.

    If you seriously do not understand that the issue of legalising abortion revolves around whether the unborn fetus is alive or not, then you have seriously missed the entire issue and frankly have lost the credibility needed to discuss this calmly, clearly and with authority.

    You do your defense of women at all costs, no favours.
    ISTM what you want is someone to go into battle against and spend the evening having a right good bitch fight ending in "yes she does" and "no she doesn't" based on ignoring entirely the nature of the fetus which seems to have been forgotten in the hurley-burley.

    Sorry. I really have better things to do and have nothing more to add than the effort I invested in my explanatory answer .
    I do not take kindly to being accused of simplistic adolescent "taking sides" (complete with labels) when I have made it clear I have no side. And I take even less kindly to being disbelieved in order for you to reduce this conversation to that adolescent level.
    I am not going on your crusade complete with placard...
    So I shall suggest that you go have an argument with your mirror and I shall close up and enjoy my fireside.
     
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    The truth about abortion.

    https://www.breitbart.com/social-ju...heyre-born-ultimate-act-of-voter-suppression/

    Prominent pro-life leader Ryan Bomberger addressed President Joe Biden during a press conference Wednesday, reminding the pro-abortion president who has accused Republicans of trying to prevent Americans from voting that “killing voters before they’re born is the ultimate act of voter suppression.”

    Bomberger, an Emmy Award-winning creative professional who, with his wife, co-founded the Radiance Foundation, was himself conceived in rape and then adopted by a loving family.
     
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    Systemic racism, by the way, is a government-funded entity, like Planned Parenthood, that disproportionately kills black lives,” Bomberger noted, adding the only way to end the destruction of abortion is to “abort Roe.”

    “The Democrat Party, once the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, and separate and unequal, is now the party of limitless abortion,” he asserted, noting that voting rights activist and civil rights leader Fannie Lou Hamer referred to abortion as genocide.

    Biden made reference to Hamer during his remarks in Atlanta, Georgia, on January 11, during which he urged Senate Democrats to kill the filibuster rule to enable passage of his legislation to federalize elections in the United States.

    “Yes, Hamer was unapologetically pro-life, pro-adoption and anti-Planned Parenthood,” Bomberger observed. “You want to have voting rights, President Biden, killing voters before they’re born is the ultimate act of voter suppression.”
     
  6. FoxHastings

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    SHOW where anyone says the fetus is not alive.


    If you can't then "you have seriously missed the entire issue and frankly have lost the credibility needed to discuss this calmly, clearly and with authority.""


    Why would anyone kill something that wasn't alive....do you know what "alive" and "dead" mean ?????



    The easiest way out....
     
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    WHEN IS A FETUS CONSIDERED "ALIVE?"
    ...Many pro-life groups claim humanity at the moment of conception. Thus, by definition, a zygote (pictured above) has a right to life.
    Like moral personhood and the definition of "right to life," this issue is a key point in the abortion debate .

    https://abortionmedicalethics.weebly.com/when-is-a-fetus-considered-alive.html

    Since the two cells unite, there's a human inside you.
    Since the preborn has human parents, she has to be human. And from the moment of conception, the being that begins as a single cell is biologically different from her mother. She is a unique combination of her mother and her father who has never existed before. She is alive, and birth does not change the essence of what the preborn was before or will be after.
    https://www.debate.org/opinions/is-a-fetus-a-living-human
    (from one side of the principal argument).


    Those in favour of abortion often suggest the debate centres upon when the foetus becomes sufficiently human to have the right to life.
    Opponents believe the foetus is never anything other than human from conception, and therefore has a right to life from this time.
    It's a key point in the debate,

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/abortion/child/alive_1.shtml


    I suggest you widen your reasons for the promotion of abortion and consider that there may be more than one person involved in this decision. The fetus.
    If you don't think it is alive, then do away with it in good conscience.
    If you do, then its rights do not override the mother's rights.
    It really is that simple.

    Now will you please stop shouting at me?
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    LOL.....now if only you could SHOW where anyone said the fetus isn't alive as YOU CLAIMED...

    The human fetus is human from conception and I have never seen anyone say otherwise....
     
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