Abortion & Minimum Wage: How Abortion Oppresses Women

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the same thing comes into play with the minimum wage.

    If there's a job paying X amount of money, but the government tells a woman she cannot do it (because of how much money it pays), then to some extent the government has decided to take a freedom of hers away. Maybe by taking away this freedom they will create a better outcome for her, but maybe not. Maybe she won't be able to do that job she wants to do. A clear analogy also exists with pregnancy. Maybe the woman does not really want to end her pregnancy, but she is being pressured to. Taking that option off the table might end or reduce that pressure. Or it might not. Some women will benefit. Just like some women will benefit from having their freedom taken away of having the personal option of working for a job that offers less money.
     
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    Nobody is forcing women to have abortions. <smdh>
     
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    I covered your min wage example .. did you not understand what was written ? - The "Oppression" in that case comes from the same place as the "Oppression" in the case of Abortion .. Legalized Abortion is not the Oppressor - Wealth inequality is the oppressor. ..
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is your view. That is not always the case.

    Let's also point out a wider macroeconomic phenomena at work, and that is that if - completely hypothetically - all women were not able to get abortions, then likely the pressure of economic circumstances driving women to get abortions in the first place would also decrease, a little bit.
     
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    LOL, ya, right...having a kid is so much cheaper than not having one...a perfect example of Anti-Choicer's NON-LOGIC...

    All their other arguments have failed...so they invent fantasy scenarios :)
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not having a home is also cheaper than having one. Yet it would obviously still be oppression if certain people were told they could not have a home.

    Oppression isn't just all about "easiness", though I can see why you might think that is the case.

    (And even if we went with the "easiness" argument, it could be argued that a minimum wage law might make the easier jobs disappear since employers might have to force all their employees to work harder to justify the higher wages that have to be paid. So even there your argument would still partially fail)
     
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    YOUR argument started out FAILED....it's ridiculous and not an argument for anything.


    LOL, ya, right...having a kid is so much cheaper than not having one...a perfect example of Anti-Choicer's NON-LOGIC...

    All their other arguments have failed...so they invent fantasy scenarios :)
     
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    You have spent many words saying nothing .. some wings of a butterfly causing a tidal wave across the globe type statement - but even less meaningful.

    We have examples of places where abortion is/was illegal .. Columbia just legalized it like yesterday .. there was no betterment of the Columbian economy on this basis . and even if there was .. so small as to matter not to the Oppression equation .. never mind turn if from a negative into a positive .. as you are suggesting.

    I gave you an example you say "not always the case" -- but proffer no example of that not being the case. and example where the Oppression comes not from external economic factors .. in the real world .. not some made up fantasy nonsense.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, no one says the woman has to keep it.
    You are creating a straw man.

    Maybe someone like you couldn't possibly understand why a mother might not want to abort it if she wasn't planning on keeping it.

    (That was the same mistake the evil pretend mother made in the Judgement of Solomon)
     
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    LOL, maybe if you made a sentence that made sense I'd understand it :)


    YOUR argument started out FAILED....it's ridiculous and not an argument for anything.


    LOL, ya, right...having a kid is so much cheaper than not having one...a perfect example of Anti-Choicer's NON-LOGIC...

    All their other arguments have failed...so they invent fantasy scenarios :)
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are totally misrepresenting the issue.
    This isn't about "easiness" (or cheapness). Women are being forced, pressured and coerced to abort their child that they do not want to, or may not want to abort.

    You think all that lifelong therapy to deal with a forced abortion will be cheap??
     
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    """Women are being forced, pressured and coerced to abort their child""""


    WHERE? WHEN? BY WHOM?


    You have NEVER answered those questions....why not ? ;) ;)




    You think all that lifelong therapy to deal with forced gestation will be cheap ?





    YOUR argument started out FAILED....it's ridiculous and not an argument for anything.


    LOL, ya, right...having a kid is so much cheaper than not having one...a perfect example of Anti-Choicer's NON-LOGIC...

    All their other arguments have failed...so they invent fantasy scenarios :)
     
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  13. FoxHastings

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    You had no answers here, is that why you started a new thread ;) ???
     
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    Let's get back to all those unanswered posts in this thread before going off in more goofy tangets
     

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