ABORTION PILL RULING: Judge SUSPENDS FDA Approval of Mifepristone

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  1. TheImmortal

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    They do include that. At a rate of about 1-2%. Whereas the other 98-99% are doing it for birth control.

    So how many is that per year at 98-99% that are having abortions for birth control? Like 600,000-900,000. Right? Probably should use one of those pills y’all are so fond of to not get pregnant in the first place. Or keep their legs shut and their penis in their pants.
     
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    If you want your authoritarian politicians to dictate when heterosexual couples are allowed to have intercourse, Americans, most of whom support reproductive freedom, are not about to let that happen.​
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    That is government intrusion beyond even prohibiting people to travel out-of-state for medical care or censoring their mail.

    Your authoritarian politicians and bureaucrats should neither be prescribing nor proscribing medical procedures.

    People who tend to have abortions later in a pregnancy do so because of "medical concerns such as fetal anomalies or maternal life endangerment, as well as barriers to care that cause delays in obtaining an abortion,"

    https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/fact-sheet/abortions-later-in-pregnancy/
     
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    Contraception and health care are two mostly different topics. I'm not aware that Biden's EO did anything to change the abortion landscape. His EO is 90% nonsensical and 10% bloviating.
     
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    I personally believe the abortion pill/drug ought to be available, and I have little problem with abortion up to the time the fetus shows distinctive human traits, like brain waves, in roughly 4-1/2 months. But this is not the point, which is Biden's EO which did nothing to materially affect abortion rights but merely gave free and easier contraception and certain health care that Obamacare didn't.​
     
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    Legislation is already passed. You don't need new legislation.
     
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    Exactly my point. Thanks for agreeing.
     
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    The greater national concern is for authoritarians hellbent upon abrogating reproductive freedom.
     
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    Going in a different direction. I spent a month trying to do research on why pot is a schedule 1 drug, calling senators, house members, FDA, DEA, and ATF. It basically came down to a finger pointing game and the last finger pointed at the FDA. The FDA told me that they couldn't approve it without testing with a control group and there were no placebos available for pot. All of this to say this: If a judge can override a decision by the FDA, then they shouldn't need the FDA to approve marijuana if a judge approves it. Wouldn't that be correct?
     
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    Heh, sure if "exactly my point" is code for you abandoning your claim!

    Ha! Man this site is fun!
     
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    The woman's....always. If for no other reason that she has the right to deny her body being used against her will...
     
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    But if the woman’s life is endangered the foetus will probably not survive
     
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    Are they? And you have proof of this? The “abortion as birth control” proves nothing other than the fact that people holding that view
    1. Have NEVER thought it through - it is more costly, inconvenient and messy than contraception
    2. Do not realise the failure rates of “typical” use of contraception
    3. Do not realise that a majority of women seeking abortion are in a stable relationship or already have at least one child
    4. Have a really really really poor opinion of women
     
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    The one sure way of reducing abortion is to reduce the need for abortion and that means making Long acting reversible contraception cheap, easy to obtain and known about
     
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    Scheduling was never completely about logic. The distinction between 1 and 2 is mostly whether there is a recognized medical use, but in reality most of them can have medical uses. It’s not like heroin is truly more dangerous than fentanyl or morphine, it’s just culture, particularly the prevailing culture vs subcultures.

    Marijuana is clearly therapeutic in some circumstances and not equivalent to Marinol. But it was widely used by poorly regarded groups. No reason there couldn’t be a control group, particularly for ingestion, but could do for smoking in the context of terminally ill cancer patients who would benefit from improved nausea control.
     
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    Uhhh … no. Your post is code for you completely misunderstanding my point.
     
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    Really? So should people have been forced to take the Covid shot or lose their jobs and their right to send their children to public schools? Cause y’all killed that bodily autonomy argument when the left said take the vaccine or lose your ability to feed your family.
     
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    Getting an abortion because you’re going to die if you don’t is wholly understandable. Getting an abortion for birth control because you don’t think you make enough money to support it or your boyfriend broke up with you is not.
     
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    Yes. They are. That’s what a late term abortion is. It’s an abortion done after 20 weeks when it’s POSSIBLE the baby would be viable outside the womb.
     
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    I just gave you the sources where the guttmacher institute, a pro-abortion group, listed the reasons for abortion both first term and late term. And the statistics are always the same. Whether early or late term, 1-2% of them have an abortion because they will die if they don’t or due to incest or rape. The other 98-99% are for birth control. They have them because they don’t think they can afford a child or their partner left them or they just don’t think they can handle a baby at that point in their lives.
     
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    Yes, no, no, no, ….and no.
     
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    Why do you hate women so…? Bad mother? Jilted by too many girlfriends? Male insecurity…?
     
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    So people don’t have bodily autonomy when you want them to take an experimental vaccine?
     
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    I don’t hate women. I love women. I dislike whores who can’t keep their legs shut and then want to murder their baby to get out of the consequences of their piss poor decisions.
     
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    Of course they do…you became confused as to which question I was answering…
     
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