Abortion rights and gun rights

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by The Sentinel, May 25, 2015.

  1. The Sentinel

    The Sentinel Active Member

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    Isn't it interesting how those who want absolutely no restrictions on abortion are similar to those who want no restrictions on personal possession and use of guns and weapons? A good case could be made the constitution can be interpreted in a way that people have the right not to have their rights to either one of those things infringed up to a certain point, with reasonable restrictions in place. Of course, we can go back and forth on what constitutes a "reasonable" restriction, but you can't even do that with people who think the right to abortion/guns is absolute.

    Ditto with people who want to ban all guns or all abortions.
     
  2. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    There is much overlap between the two, but there are also some important differences.

    I started a thread some time back about it:
    gun deaths? what about abortion?
     
  3. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    A bigger irony is those who want no gun restrictions what so ever yet want full restrictions on abortion.

    As far as guns are concerned the constitution does have the 2nd Amendment, though the right of the individual to own a gun was decided by interpretation of that Amendment, something the pro-gun lobby are happy to stand by .. yet, Roe was also decided on an interpretation of another Amendment (14th) yet the pro-gun, pro-life lobby state that interpretation was wrong .. it seems to me that as long as the interpretations follow their values they are ok, when the don't it is the Justices overstepping their power.

    For me Roe got it pretty much right .. though that will not stop me from arguing the complete opposite from what the pro-lifers who want personhood from conception,
     
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    FaerieGodfather New Member

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    There's also a similarity between their opponents, who say they only want reasonable restrictions and then use those "reasonable" restrictions as stepping stones towards complete abolition.
     
  5. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    The key word is "reasonable", what is reasonable for one person is draconian restriction for another, and I'm afraid, for the most, pro-lifers idea of reasonable sails far closer to draconian.
     
  6. PatriotNews

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    I don't see any relation between the two other than the Constitution guarantees your right to bear arms and the Declaration of Independence your right to life.
     
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    I thought it was liberals who wanted no restrictions on abortions and lots of restrictions on guns. Conservatives tend to want the exact opposite.

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    Seems that guaranteeing the right to guns for some may be in perfect opposition to the right to life for others.
     
  8. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Personally the gun issue has no direct effect on me .. however as a pro-choicer person I want no restrictions on either, both as far as I can see are rights interpreted from amendments contained within the Constitution by SCOTUS.

    The poster who cited the BOR needs to understand that the BOR has no legal standing in the US
     

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