Abortions will now be resuming in West Virginia. After the Roe v. Wade ruling has recently been overturned, after 49 years, for a brief period of time the small handful of abortion clinics in the state ceased operation for fear that they might be in danger of prosecution. West Virginia still had a law on the books that mostly banned abortions, but that law was from 1882. Since the start of Roe v. Wade, the state had passed several other laws regulating abortion, which a judge claimed overwrote the old original law. Those later laws did not actually technically legally cancel the older law. But nevertheless, the argument can be made that the state should not be enforcing a law that was passed 140 years ago and has not been enforced for the past 50 years. With a state judge issuing an injunction stopping the enforcement of the old law, it now remains to be seen whether the state government will pass any new laws, now that they would not be blocked by the federal courts. West Virginia did not have any "trigger laws" in place (laws designed to take effect in the event the Roe v. Wade ruling was overturned).
A Pew research survey showed that 58% of adults in West Virginia believe abortion should be illegal in most cases, and 35% think it should be legal in most cases. Views about abortion among adults in West Virginia - Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics | Pew Research Center However, when it comes to 18 to 29-year-olds, 58.5% of them think it should be legal and 41.5% think it should be illegal. The younger generation is more pro-abortion. Interestingly, those with lower incomes in the state are more likely to believe abortion should be illegal in most cases, and men are slightly more likely to be in favor of abortion than women, according to the survey.
Could talk about something less triggering for a change? How about appendectomies or colonic resections.
So, you've got what, 93% of those polled who believe abortion should be legal in at least some cases.
Well, the majority of people who believe abortion should be illegal "in most cases" still believe abortion should be legal in at least some cases.
I see, so if someone supports abortion for any reason, you believe it's only logical if they support abortion for any reason.
LOL, did you read what you wrote? It's LOGICAL if you believe abortion for any reason then you support abortion for any reason....see, they are the same thing.... Why didn't you address what I referred to: kazenatsu said: ↑ Well, the majority of people who believe abortion should be illegal "in most cases" still believe abortion should be legal in at least some cases.""""" Your statement begs the question why do they think abortion should be illegal in most cases? If it's because it's "murder" as they claim then why is it NOT "murder" in all cases? An abortion is an abortion, the procedure is the same and the outcome is the same .....so why an exception???
Maybe they didn't have trigger laws because the 1882 law was in place. Poor decision made by the judge. I hate legislation at the bench even if it feels supremely compassionate to do so.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Your statement begs the question why do they think abortion should be illegal in most cases? If it's because it's "murder" as they claim then why is it NOT "murder" in all cases? Why not and Who says??? I've seen Anti-Choicers who believe it's a person from conception. And WHY wouldn't it be murder? At what point do you call it murder? If a woman is raped and in a coma for a few months or recuperating from her attack is she NOT allowed to have an abortion because you think it's past a certain point?? Not all rape victims are in a state to make decisions immediately..
THE PARTS YOU MISSED :Why not and Who says??? I've seen Anti-Choicers who believe it's a person from conception. And WHY wouldn't it be murder? At what point do you call it murder? If a woman is raped and in a coma for a few months or recuperating from her attack is she NOT allowed to have an abortion because you think it's past a certain point?? Not all rape victims are in a state to make decisions immediately.. And......is that addressing my post ? No.
If the mother has to remove the baby because it was forcably placed there and it results in its death, charge the person who placed it there with child neglect and manslaughter charges, aka the rapist. It's their fault it had to result in a death. It's not the mothers fault for removing the child when she had no part in its being there, not even indirectly.
No, it just sounds logical superficially. Maybe this will help you? If someone supports abortion that is done for any particular one reason reason, you believe it's only logical if they support abortion that is done for any other reason?
FoxHastings said: ↑ THE PARTS YOU MISSED :Why not and Who says??? I've seen Anti-Choicers who believe it's a person from conception. And WHY wouldn't it be murder? At what point do you call it murder? If a woman is raped and in a coma for a few months or recuperating from her attack is she NOT allowed to have an abortion because you think it's past a certain point?? Not all rape victims are in a state to make decisions immediately.. So "murder" in some instances is OK with you? """"It's not the mothers fault for removing the child when she had no part in its being there, not even indirectly""" Proving that the reason some Anti-Choicers want to make exceptions for rape....they want women who had consensual sex to be punished.. BTW, the ZEF wasn't at fault either.... so why can it be killed ????
There is ONLY ONE REASON and that is the woman WANTS AN ABORTION. WTF difference does it make to the ZEF hat the "reason" is... ....and my, aren't you off topic !!?
Start another thread if you want to talk about it. (I even give you permission to leave the link here)
