About the Holocaust

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Me too.

    If it were not for Revisionists, the Holocaust Industry would still be lying about "human skin lampshades", "human fat soap", "human skin pocketbooks", homicidal steam chambers, Conveyor belts of Death(1), 4 million killed at Auschwitz and other fables generated by the Holocaust Industry that have turned out to be deliberate lies intended to shock & deceive gullible individuals.

    The "falsification of history" that the Nazis executed about 11 million people ( about 6 million Jews and 5 million others) in a systematic & industrialized manner is just as fraudulent as the "human skin pocketbooks".



    (1) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
    https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

    EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED
     
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    A theme that runs throughout truthful holocaust accounts is that the Germans tried to make life as bearable as possible for inmates in the camps but especially near the end of the war they were unable to supply the camps with adequate food and medicine because Germany's transportation infrastructure was destroyed. In other words, most of the suffering in these camps was a result of wartime privations, not innate German sadism.
    For example, among the things stated by Alexander McClelland in his letter(*) was:
    " As a matter of fact, it was a German SS Soldier who saved my life after
    the Kapos, who after beating me sent me outside the camp on a work
    detail, with a dangerously poisoned leg. The SS Soldier walking by saw my
    mates helping me, came over and then gave me his medical kit."

    A British P.O.W. who spent time at Auschwitz said: "The Germans, contrary to what a lot of people think, were pretty good to us on the whole."(1)
    A former neighbor of mine who was a "White" Russian (vs "Red") was captured by all the major armies in the European theater. She steadfastly maintained that she received the best treatment while in the hands of the Germans.

    If people were deliberately starved, beaten and gassed, it's very unlikely that a Holocaust survivor would say that the Germans: "...were pretty good to us on the whole.

    It's long past time to recognize Allied propaganda about the stereotypical cruel and sadistic Hun for the lie that it is especially when some of the most egregious war crimes were committed by the Allies.

    “I do not want suggestions as to how we can disable the economy and the machinery of war, what I want are suggestions as to how we can roast the German refugees on their escape from Breslau.”
    Winston Churchill (2)



    (*) ALEXANDER MCCLELLAND - LETTER
    http://www.scrapbookpages.com/CzechRepublic/Theresienstadt/SmallFortress/TheresienstadtKapos.html

    (1). "The Auschwitz goalkeeper: British prisoner of war who played in football match at Nazi death camp returns to bury the past"
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2443738/The-Auschwitz-goalkeeper-British-prisoner-war-makes-poignant-return-Nazi-death-camp.html

    EXCERPTS "During the week prisoners were employed at forced labour camps, but on their rest day they were allowed to play football on a field just outside the camp - with armed German guards watching from the sidelines.

    Father-of-one Ron said: “We didn’t work on a Sunday so we used to play football.'

    The Red Cross heard about it and brought the teams four sets of shirts - English, Scottish, Irish and Welsh.

    'There was the humiliation and the lack of food but on the whole life wasn’t too bad.'

    'The Germans, contrary to what a lot of people think, were pretty good to us on the whole.' "CONTINUED


    (2) "Winston Churchill: the Imperial Monster"
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/28/winston-churchill-the-imperial-monster/
     
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    The court perfectly summarized what it called my "logical thread" and my "reasoning" by specifying it, for me,

    "[...] the existence of the gas chambers, such as usually described since 1945, conflict with an absolute impossibility, which suffices by itself to invalidate all the existing testimonies or, at the least, to stamp them with suspicion."





    Allied Military Police
    NO GASSING

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    Man who claimed to have escaped Auschwitz admits he lied for years

    Joseph Hirt said he fabricated story of being sent to camp and meeting Nazi doctor Josef Mengele to ‘keep memories alive’ [more accurately the delusions] about history of the Holocaust



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    A Pennsylvania man who claimed for years to have escaped from Auschwitz, met track and field star Jesse Owens and Nazi doctor Josef Mengele, confessed on Friday that he had fabricated the entire story.

    “I am writing today to apologize publicly for harm caused to anyone because of my inserting myself into the descriptions of life in Auschwitz,” Joseph Hirt, 86, wrote in a letter sent to his local paper, LNP, this week. “I was not a prisoner there.


    Enric Marco admitted he has been lying for 30 years

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    Holocaust 'survivor' admits to lie

    Prominent member of the Spanish Holocaust survivors' community admits to never being imprisoned in concentration camp


    By Ynetnews|Published: 05.12.05 , 21:44



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    They tell people straight up that they are lying, but people believe that holohoax **** anyway! :confused:


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    never ceases to surprise me how ignorant americans are, as the freedoms they think they have continue to be undermined by Marxi-Commie-Zionist J-Ws that weaseled their way into our government through lies and subterfuge, a growing cancer as they are writing holohoax denial laws for the US as we speak and its going completely unoticed.​




    Any holocaust protaganist zealots come up with any hard as in material evidence yet...or just more of the same beer farts and belches from alleged witnesses, many of whom never set foot in a camp!

     
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    You, Kokomojojo, are one of a kind!!! :handshake:
     
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    You’re a mentally disturbed man and I can’t help you
     
  6. Grau

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    In other words, you can't refute a single thing that @Kokomojojo wrote and supported and are compelled to slander those of us around the world who are capable of critical and independent thought.

    There are far more people in the world who do not believe the fraudulent holocaust narrative than there are deluded rubes who actually believe that the Nazi regime systematically murdered millions of people via homicidal gas chambers, homicidal steam chambers, Conveyor belts of death(1) and other fictitious contraptions.

    According to the ADL, only about 1/3 of the world actually believes the the standard holocaust narrative(SHN) and even that number is probably smaller when you consider that "Holocaust denial" is a punishable crime in many Western "democracies".
    The fact that "Holocaust denial" is a crime in many countries would cause many of those participating in the poll to claim that they believed the SHN when they really do not.

    If anyone is "mentally disturbed", it would be the hate filled, slanderous and delusional individuals who actually believe the countless physical impossibilities that comprise the SHN.



    ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

    This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED



    (1) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
    https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

    EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED
    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED
     
  7. Kokomojojo

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    Yes a man of principles that finds what the J-Ws did (as distinguished from Jews) to the germans was extremely disturbing. There was most certainly a holocaust, the victims however were the Germans, not the J-Ws.

    So we know and admit the holocaust happened, the J-Ws burned over 300,000 Germans in a few short hours in Dresden using illegal phosphorous incendiary bombs,

    Winston Churchill: German cities . . . will be subjected to an ordeal the like of which has never been experienced by a country in continuity, severity and magnitude . . . To achieve this end there are no lengths of violence to which we will not go. [Garrett, Stephen A. Ethics and Airpower in World War II—The British Bombing of German Cities. New York: St. Martin’s Press, 1993. Page 31]
    RAF Crewman: To just fly over it without opposition felt like murder. [It was] I felt it was a cowardly war. [McKee, Alexander.Dresden 1945—The Devil’s Tinderbox.New York: E.P.Dutton, 1982. Page 66]

    We Have LIVE VIDEO FOOTAGE of the J-Ws Terror Bombing the Germans in their Holocaust!
    The Dresden Holocaust, Murder and Burning
    of Defenseless NonCombatant German Civilians





    Why dont you acknowledge the Dresden war crimes?

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    Burning children in their holocaust

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    Stars & Stripes
    London Edition, Saturday, May 5, 1945, Vol. 5, No. 156


    Air Raid on Dresden Killed More Than 300,000

    by Dan Regan
    Stars and Stripes Staff Writer

    With the 1st Army, May 3 (Delayed) -- The Allied air raid on Dresden on Feb. 13-14 killed 300,000 persons, according to a report by Dresden police to a group of 600 -- British and French -- prisoners who were given passes by the Germans to enter the American lines.

    Nine British PWs were working in Dresden during the raid and said the horror and devastation caused by the Anglo-American 14-hour raid was beyond human comprehension unless one could see for himself.

    One British sergeant said,

    "Reports from Dresden police that 300,000 died as a result of the bombing [and that] didn't include deaths among 1,000,000 evacuees from the Breslau area trying to escape from the Russians. There were no records on them.
    "After seeing the results of the bombing, I believe these figures are correct."

    "They had to pitchfork shriveled bodies onto trucks and wagons and cart them to shallow graves on the outskirts of the city. But after two weeks if work the job became too much to cope with and they found other means to gather up the dead."

    "They burned bodies in a great heap in the center of the city, but the most effective way, for sanitary reasons, was to take flamethrowers and burn the dead as they lay in the ruins. They would just turn the flamethrowers into the houses, burn the dead and then close off the entire area. The whole city is flattened. [J-Ws TERROR bombing campaign flattened and burned 96% of the residential areas, while the alleged target, the railroad, had so little damage it was repaired in 1 day!] They were unable to clean up the dead lying beside roads for several weeks," the sergeant added.


    We now have all the camp records, LESS THAN 400,000 TOTAL PRISONERS WENT THROUGH AUSCHWITZ!

    Lets talk about those 6 million J-Ws that were systematically gassed by those dastardly demons, the spawn satan nazis, who destroyed all the records to the lucky good fortune of the J-Ws so they could LIE THROUGH THEIR TEETH WITH IMPUNITY to ramp up reparation costs several fold for the wars they caused.

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    So when will I be seeing my tax refund since the money given to them was obtained through fraud and deceit?


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    THERE ARE NO HOMICIAL GAS CHAMBERS AND YOU HAVE NO MATERIAL EVIDENCE THEY EVER EXISTED.


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    The J-W Weasel LIED to invent the HOMICIDAL gas chamber

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    Dr. Benedikt Kautzy spent the whole war in Auschwitz and never heard of any homicidal gas chambers?



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    Dem dar J-Ws are really good at making prophesies eh?

    1921 - New York Times, July 20, 1921, page 2


    BEGS AMERICA SAVE 6,000,000 IN RUSSIA. Russia's 6,000,000 Jews are facing extermination by massacre
    ............................................................................................................................

    as distinguished from the German DEPORTATION, NOT BY MASSACRE

    to exterminate something was to banish it or drive it away. And it is this meaning that can be found in the Latin origin of "exterminate." "Exterminate" comes from "exterminatus," the past participle of 'exterminare', meaning "to drive beyond the boundaries." The Latin word 'exterminare' was formed from the prefix ex- ("out of" or "outside") and "terminus" ("boundary"). Not much more than a century after its introduction to English, "exterminate" came to denote destroying or utterly putting an end to something. And that's the use with which the word is usually employed today.


    Little to much SciFi as a replacement for reality?

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    SOP
    da J-Ws playing word games!
    Shifting the MEANING of the word exterminate from expelling someone by deportation (which 'was' clearly stated in wannase and proven with the final solution, the Havaara agreement) to exterminate by killing, then blame the germans with relentless LIES for the massacres the J-Ws did to the Germans and are the proven perps.

    Great way to shift the meaning of a word is put it on a popular TV scifi show.

    Mass social programming experiment that fails when people are very literate and exercise excellent highly critical thinking skills.
     
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    It’s too bad the US never had a chance to use bombs 3,4,5 on Germany
     
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    Thats a new one. Which Marxi-Zio-Commie J-W psychopath said that?

    I want my damn tax refund for all the money the kleptocracy forced me to pay toward this holohoax fraud. Crime pays very well for some people!
     
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    What hate filled and racist thinking.

    The mass murder of millions more innocent German civilians is OK but the typhus deaths of about 400,000 Jews is the "greatest crime in recorded history".

    If it were not for extensive German aid both before and after WW 2, Israel wouldn't exist:


    “Inside the Germany/Israel Relationship”
    http://www.momentmag.com/inside-germ...-relationship/

    EXCERPTS “Federal Republic of Germany laid the groundwork for Israel’s infrastructure—including roads, railways and shipping—while simultaneously rebuilding West German industry.

    In addition to money, Israel also needed weapons. As early as 1954, German reparation funds were secretly being used to buy patrol boats, tanks and arms. Germany itself supplied Israel with weapons through a variety of back channels. Many details remain untold, but a 2006 U.S. Congressional Research Service report concluded that German-supplied arms “played a considerable role” in building up Israeli military might in the wars of 1967, 1973 and 1982."CONTINUED


    “German-Israeli Armaments Cooperation”
    http://www.bits.de/public/articles/cast06-02.htm

    EXCERPT “Israel profited from cooperation by having a reliable and quick source for spare parts and complete weapon systems – even in times of war, when other nations like the United States, Great Britain and France were more restrictive in supplying arms to Israel. Another advantage was the willingness of the German government to pay for these exports to Israel."CONTINUED


    “Zionism and the Third Reich”
    https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html

    EXCERPTS

    “Active Collaboration

    On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what each group believed was in its own national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until 1940-1941, when the Second World War prevented extensive collaboration.

    The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of Germany's Jews to Palestine.

    Indeed, during the 1930s no nation did more to substantively further Jewish-Zionist goals than Hitler's Germany.” CONTINUED
     
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    Hi, you amazingly fearless man! I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your great bravery to stand up in these dangerous times and defend the Germans of the WWII era! Decades of brainwashing has resulted in blind obedience... they now criminalize and incarcerate their own people!!!
    Example:
    Ursula Haverbeck: Imprisoned in Germany for “Thought Crimes”

    https://archive.org/details/Ursula-...rbeck+Debunks+the+Holocaust+Hoax-embedded.mp4

    Ursula is 91 years old and presently serving a 2-year jail term in Germany!
    Many others are also incarcerated for questioning the Holocaust. Minimum sentence is five (5) years.
    And the over-ninety German soldiers are still being hunted! They found one here in Canada. His name is Helmut Oberlaender.
    Read the Jewish newspaper:
    https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/former-nazi-helmut-oberlander-loses-last-appeal-faces-deportation...
    "Bernie Farber, the former CEO of the Canadian Jewish Congress who has been following the case against Oberlander since it was launched in 1995, believes he has exhausted all his legal options. All that’s left now is his removal, likely to Germany, Farber said.

    Farber, who called Oberlander “the last Nazi standing”, said “it took way too long. This is not going to be a great legacy for the Canadian judiciary in dealing with war criminals.”

    The Canadian legal system, he continued, provided Oberlander numerous avenues of appeal. etc."
    I hope he is still at home in Waterloo and can die in peace with his family at his side.
     
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    KOKO on iggy. He should be banned from here !!
     
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    Defend the Germans of WW2 ?? They killed over 100 million and you defend them.
    What does that say about you ???
     
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    Damn right! I defend whats right and just and truthful, and do not buy into the Maxi-Zio-Commie propaganda, just because you think its popular.
    I'm sorry I ruined your day with facts.

    What? Ban me so you dont have to provide citations and evidence proving the wild .


    Calm down, take a chill pill, the truth will set you free!

    I post material evidence to prove my points, you got any? Anything at all to support your claims?



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    REAL 'Jews' PROTESTING THE MARXI-ZIO-COMMIES J-W's
    ILLEGAL CREATION OF ISRAEL!

    Unlike you I like real Jews and fight for their rights!

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    The Dresden Holocaust, Murder and Burning

    of Defenseless NonCombatant German Civilians


    Look what your Zionist pals did to 1/2 million Germans in one night!

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    Stars & Stripes
    London Edition, Saturday, May 5, 1945, Vol. 5, No. 156

    Air Raid on Dresden Killed More Than 300,000


    by Dan Regan
    Stars and Stripes Staff Writer

    With the 1st Army, May 3 (Delayed) -- The Allied air raid on Dresden on Feb. 13-14 killed 300,000 persons, according to a report by Dresden police to a group of 600 -- British and French -- prisoners who were given passes by the Germans to enter the American lines.

    Nine British PWs were working in Dresden during the raid and said the horror and devastation caused by the Anglo-American 14-hour raid was beyond human comprehension unless one could see for himself.

    One British sergeant said,

    "Reports from Dresden police that 300,000 died as a result of the bombing [and that] didn't include deaths among 1,000,000 evacuees from the Breslau area trying to escape from the Russians. There were no records on them.

    "After seeing the results of the bombing, I believe these figures are correct."

    "They had to pitchfork shriveled bodies onto trucks and wagons and cart them to shallow graves on the outskirts of the city. But after two weeks if work the job became too much to cope with and they found other means to gather up the dead."

    "They burned bodies in a great heap in the center of the city, but the most effective way, for sanitary reasons, was to take flamethrowers and burn the dead as they lay in the ruins. They would just turn the flamethrowers into the houses, burn the dead and then close off the entire area. The whole city is flattened. They were unable to clean up the dead lying beside roads for several weeks," the sergeant added.


    Psychopathic Marxi-Zio-Commie J-Ws,
    Only psychopaths would deliberately target noncombatant civilians.

    Feel free to cite any 'material' evidence you may have.

    Hitler already gave them a holiday camp! We dont give prisoners in the US anything close to the luxury holiday camp hitler gave his prisoners!

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    Just look at all that, PROOF!

    Concerts, orchestras, a whore house, free medical services, pianists, soccer, plays for the adults and the children they were said to murder, THEY EVEN SERVED BEER TO THE PRISONERS in auschwitz, some death camp!



    Real Jewish holocaust survivors (not the J-Ws) that tell the 'truth' about the auschwitz holiday camp:



    Crying to get someone banned for posting the truth because it disagrees with the propaganda you post is the last cry of a sinking ship, and shows how weak your position 'really' is and also shows that YOU KNOW IT, and the only way to even the debate is to get rid of your opponent completely since you have nothing what so ever to back your allegations!!

    Sorry man we have all the data today with plenty of court cases and J-Ws that confessed they were lying about everything, no mass graves, no gas, no human skin lamp shades, no electric conveyors, no 'homicidal' gas chambers.

    But then maybe you can win a nobel prize and be the first to prove 6 million jews were gassed, that there were any homicidal gas chambers at all, oh and the mass graves, did you find them yet?
     
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    Of course you want the truth banned since you're entirely unable to refute the actual facts about WW 2 and the holocaust.

    It seems like holocaustians have only 2 responses in defense of their fraudulent standard holocaust narrative:

    1. Censorship
    2. Howling "anti Semite"

    Why participate in a debate forum when you want all who hold truthful & opposing views banned for your convenience?
    You don't want a debate forum, you want an echo chamber.
     
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    You really need to read a history book.
     
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    And what was worse than 6 million being gassed and exterminated based on religion or race
     
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    All the Americans who stole land from the natives are dead. Many of the Jewish Zionists who stole land from Palestinian Arabs are still alive and benefiting from their theft. And many other Jewish Zionists are STILL stealing land from Palestinian Arabs. And if you really thought Jews were equal to everyone else, you'd not only see the distinction, but acknowledge its fundamental importance. But because you seem to harbor some degree of Jewish supremacism, you just instinctively view Jews as above the normal rules that everyone else is expected to play by.
     
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    Wow.

    Really?

    Ever heard of Stalin or Mao?

    Ever heard of Genghis Khan?

    Ever heard of the Roman empire or the British empire or the Spanish empire or the Persian empire or the Assyrian empire or any other number of large empires that have raped and killed their way across huge swaths of territory?

    Ever heard of manifest destiny?

    Do you really have so little knowledge of history that you think the deaths of six million people is the worst thing that's ever happened in recorded history?

    lol
     
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    The countries you named are far from innocent. But they aren't responsible for invading Palestine and violently displacing millions of Arabs, Israel is. Again, if you really believed in equality, you would understand the importance of that distinction. But because you subtly believe in the special status of Jewish suffering and grievance, you pretend the distinction does not exist.
     
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    The only reason Israel is surrounded by Arab countries is BECAUSE Israel was stolen from Arabs.
     
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    Yeah, countries should also get to decide where their tax dollars go. And to that end, Americans should decide to stop spending mountains of taxpayer money on protecting Israel's land claims. If Israel wants Arab land, then let Israelis take on the cost and odium all by themselves. It's not my problem. And I don't even support what they're doing. I want my tax money to go towards helping AMERICANS FIRST. Must be because I'm antisemitic, right? And before you try to bring up other recipients of foreign aid, like Saudi Arabia, just know that I am 100% opposed to that foreign aid as well. But Israel is by far the biggest recipient of aid, both direct and indirect, and Israel AGGRESSIVELY lobbies America's governments to keep that aid flowing, so they deserve to be singled out in that regard.
     
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    He wasn't "attacking" Jews, he was attacking your sanctimonious attitude and your subtle supremacist instincts.

    And you attack people CONSTANTLY with false accusations of antisemitism, so you really have no room to talk.

    Lastly, this may come as a surprise to you, but you're not the spokesperson or representative for Jews. Criticism of your beliefs isn't automatically a criticism of Jews as a class. Many Jews are totally against what you believe. Why are you trying to erase them?
     
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    Since Jewish identity began as a religion, he's probably got a point. Those who do not practice Judaism in some form are not "Jews" at least in the original sense of that word. The patriarchs and forefathers of the Jewish people saw Judaism and Jewish identity as one in the same. If you got a problem with that, then I suggest you take it up with Abraham or Moses.
     
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