About the Holocaust

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  1. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me tell you, you will be neutered and muzzled!!
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    Do you really believe that the following common Holo-tales that are fed to countless, captive schoolchildren are "most plausible?

    “Dozens & Dozens of the Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
    http://wolfgangrudolf.blogspot.com/2016/12/dozens-dozens-of-most-outrageous-tales.html

    EXCERPTS:
    • Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen

    • William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years

    • Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis

    • Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses

    • Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated

    • Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED


    I've already shown how the holocaust could not have been an "industrialized genocide" because nothing like that has been mentioned in any reliable document and even the impartial Red Cross makes no mention of any form of genocide.
    There's no order from Hitler nor is any type of "genocide" mentioned in any of the post war books written by Eisenhower, Churchill or de Gaulle.

    Why?

    How could anyone but the most gullible or thoroughly brainwashed individuals believe such an outrageous lie with absolutely no hard evidence except silly and contradictory stories that are even ridiculed by other survivors?

    For example:

    "Dubious testimony"
    Quote: "Jewish historian Samuel Gringauz, who was himself interned in the ghetto of Kaunas (Lithuania) during the war, criticized what he called the "hyperhistorical" nature of most Jewish "survivor testimony." He wrote that "most of the memoirs and reports are full of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects, overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks and apologies." CONTINUED (1)

    Over the last few pages I have shown that the standard holocaust narrative is almost entirely fraudulent yet you have been entirely unable to defend your heartfelt beliefs.
    Why?



    (1) "The Nuremberg Trials and the Holocaust"
    https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Webera.html
     
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    You have to rule out big nonsense. That's not a problem.

    Btw, Germany & US together against Holocaust denial. Maas and Blinken met today at the Berlin Holocaust Memorial. https://www.voanews.com/europe/us-germany-launch-effort-counter-holocaust-denial
    :)
     
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    How do you weed out the nonsense when so much of the fraudulent holocaust narrative is mainly nonsense.
    Each of the people I listed earlier with the "big nonsense" story has either published a popular book, been featured in a movie or major publication, goes around around to schools and tells complete lies to gullible children and adults.

    Holo-Porn is, strangely enough, very popular in Israel so there's more than enough "big nonsense" going around when you're dealing with the wealthy and influential Holocaust Industry - Lobby and the "product" that it markets around the world.

    However, no matter how absurd, nobody dares question the obvious lies of a sacred "Holocaust Survivor" or else they're automatically a "Holocaust denier", anti Semite, skinhead, White supremacist and everything else that legitimate critics of Israel's government gets called when the tell the truth.

    Slander is the only tool that the Holocaust Industry - Lobby has since they are so desperate to keep the brainwashed masses from finding out the truth through open discussion and honest examination.

    For example, over the last few pages I have submitted several irrefutable facts in the form of questions that prove that the SHN is overwhelmingly fraudulent.

    You've repeatedly evaded or ignored these questions because the SHN is indefensible.

    This is the third time I've asked:
    "I've already shown how the holocaust could not have been an "industrialized genocide" because nothing like that has been mentioned in any reliable document and even the impartial Red Cross(2) makes no mention of any form of genocide.
    There's no order from Hitler nor is any type of "genocide" mentioned in any of the post war books written by Eisenhower, Churchill or de Gaulle. Additionally there is absolutely nothing in secret German radio transmissions(3) to suggest that there were ever homicidal gas chambers or a genocidal agenda.

    Why?



    (1) "Israel's Nazi-porn problem"
    https://www.salon.com/2008/04/11/stalags/


    EXCERPT " Yet the newsstands in the Tel Aviv bus station sold racks of semi-pornographic pulp novels known as "Stalags," whose utterly implausible, Penthouse Forum-meets-Marquis de Sade plots ventured into the most forbidden terrain imaginable. Stalags all followed essentially the same formula: An American or British World War II pilot (generally not Jewish) is shot down behind enemy lines, where he is imprisoned, tortured and raped by an entire phalanx of sadistic, voluptuous female SS officers. His body violated but his spirit unbroken, the plucky Yank or Brit escapes in the end to rape and murder his captors." CONTINUED



    (2) "A Factual Appraisal Of The 'Holocaust' By The Red Cross

    The Jews And The Concentration Camps:No Evidence Of Genocide
    http://www.polskawalczaca.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=18054

    EXCERPT "In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross found no evidence whatever at the camps in Axis occupied Europe of a deliberate policy to exterminate the Jews. In all its 1,600 pages the Report does not even mention such a thing as a gas chamber. It admits that Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and privations, but its complete silence on the subject of planned extermination is ample refutation of the Six Million legend." CONTINUED


    (3) “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE”
    https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

    Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

    The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED
     
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    "Facts in the form of questions" sounds strange. Something is either a fact or a question.

    When most of Holocaust history is fraudulent, why do people believe it? Are they all stupid?
    It's more likely the other way around. Holocaust deniers aka. "Revisionists" are the real idiots. :(

     
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    Re:
    A question can, indeed, relate facts and one of the many you either could or would not answer was:

    "The captured and authentic Auschwitz Death Ledger states that 68,864 people died at Auschwitz of all causes(1), so, why does the fraudulent Holocaust Industry - Lobby ignore valid documents and claim that 1.1 million people were murdered in homicidal gas chambers and etc?"

    That is an example of a question that also relates facts and you cannot answer but blindly believe whatever the Holocaust Industry tells you to think.

    Re:
    No, people who believe the standard holocaust narrative (SHN) are not necessarily stupid. Actually, most people around the world do not believe the SHN (2). It's primarily Western victims of Holocaust Industry lies spread by a complicit Western MSM. Since speaking honestly about the holocaust will get you incarcerated in about 16 "democracies", I think that it's safe to assume that many people claimed to believe lies about the holocaust than actually do so it's closer to 1/4 than 1/3.
    At any rate, most people are not gullible enough to believe the outrageous lies of the wealthy & corrupt Holocaust Industry

    Re:
    Isn't it ironic that I just mentioned slander earlier:
    "Slander is the only tool that the Holocaust Industry - Lobby has since they are so desperate to keep the brainwashed masses from finding out the truth through open discussion and honest examination."

    Let's see if you're smart enough to answer the same question I've asked you 4 times now:
    "I've already shown how the holocaust could not have been an "industrialized genocide" because nothing like that has been mentioned in any reliable document and even the impartial Red Cross(2) makes no mention of any form of genocide.
    There's no order from Hitler nor is any type of "genocide" mentioned in any of the post war books written by Eisenhower, Churchill or de Gaulle. Additionally there is absolutely nothing in secret German radio transmissions(3) to suggest that there were ever homicidal gas chambers or a genocidal agenda.

    Why?



    “Deaths at Auschwitz, 1942”
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.info/decrypts/deaths_at_auschwitz_1942_v3.pdf

    EXCERPT “More Catholics than Jews died at Auschwitz. That is the plain testimony of these Death Books.

    We Reject.... It has been averred that ‘Up to 175,000’ Jews were deported to Auschwitz by the end of 1942 . That is impossibly high, because less than forty percent of all inmates were Jewish: a figure of fifty or sixty thousand would be more reasonable. Likewise Mr Jan van Pelt averred that ‘In 1942, two hundred thousand Jews were gassed in buildings 1 and 2.’8 There cannot have been anything like such numbers arriving: and the Death Books have around onethirtieth that number of Jews die in that year! These texts tend to claim that huge numbers of Jews arrived without being registered (and were gassed right away), however we would rather stick to documented data.

    Grand Total: 68,864 deaths” CONTINUED


    (2) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED


    (3) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


    (4)"HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED
     
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    These Death Books record the deaths of prisoners who were registered in the camp and who died between July 29, 1941, and December 31, 1943. But in May 1944 alone, 424,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to Auschwitz and murdered in the days that followed.

    Why the "revisionists" don't know that?
    Calling them idiots is more than legitimate. :(
     
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    REF: How can we stop the rockets from landing on Sderot, Israel?
    SUBTOPIC: Opposing View
    ⁜→. pitbull, et al,

    BLUF: I certainly believe the "plausibility" approach is sound and valid.

    (COMMENT)

    But, plausibility has a is not quite as complicated as "probability theory." What is plausible to you may not be plausable to me, simply because of our individual experiences. But the probability of something is rooted in mathematics. Itis not plausible that I am ever going to win the lottery. But the probability of winning the lottery is actually calculatabile.

    When you start talking about Holocaust Deniers the complication level goes up significantly. It is not simply a win (true) or loose (false) proposition.
    • There are those that are telling the truth.
    • There are those that think they are telling the truth.
    • There are those that are telling a lie.
    • There are those that think they are telling a lie.
    • There are those that think the have the correct data to base their assumptions.
    • There are those that think they have the correct data.
    I have listened to Dr Noam Chomsky for many years. He earned his PhD before I was born. And I believe him to be a very good man. And he has discussed a number of topics that are unflatering of the Israelis. And I was, in the beginning, I hung on his every word. But at some point, I began to believe that his logic was skewed in favor of any people other than the Israeli. My schism began to develop when I shifted in my believe that he was telling the truth (A2) - to - he thinks he is telling the truth (B6); rating the source (Chomsky) and information reliability (on the Question of Palestine).

    Needless to say, once you start factoring into you decision matrix the reliability of the source and the accuracy of the information provided, the lines between "probability" and "plausability" and "possibility" become blurred.

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    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
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    And there are professional liars who know very well that and how the Holocaust took place. But they are criminals who only use their knowledge to falsify history. :(
     
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    How can you "not know" something that did not happen?
    424,000 Hungarian Jews were not murdered at Auschwitz.
    Why can't brainwashed holocaustians tell the difference between Transit Records and Death Ledgers?

    Firstly, you still can't explain the following question I have asked 5 times:

    "I've already shown how the holocaust could not have been an "industrialized genocide" because nothing like that has been mentioned in any reliable document and even the impartial Red Cross(1) makes no mention of any form of genocide.
    There's no order from Hitler nor is any type of "genocide" mentioned in any of the post war books written by Eisenhower, Churchill or de Gaulle. Additionally there is absolutely nothing in secret German radio transmissions(2) to suggest that there were ever homicidal gas chambers or a genocidal agenda.

    Why can't you answer this question that is proof that there was absolutely no genocidal German agenda?

    On the other hand, I can debunk your silly story about "424,000 Hungarian Jews murdered"
    There is absolutely no evidence that 424,000 Jews were murdered in the approximately 7 months that the Germans retained control of Auschwitz.

    Transit Records are not Death Ledgers but simple facts don't matter in Holocaustland.

    Remember, it was "liberated" by the Communist rapists in January 1945 so the Germans would have to have murdered and cremated about 60,000 per month or 2,000 per day which was not possible since there was only enough coal/coke delivered to Auschwitz to cremate about 70,000 people and no mass graves anywhere near that scale have been found anywhere near Auschwitz.

    Therefore, this "424,000 Jews murdered" is just another profitable holocaust lie only believed by the brainwashed and the pathetically gullible.





    (1) "A Factual Appraisal Of The 'Holocaust' By The Red Cross

    The Jews And The Concentration Camps:No Evidence Of Genocide
    http://www.polskawalczaca.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=18054

    EXCERPT "In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross found no evidence whatever at the camps in Axis occupied Europe of a deliberate policy to exterminate the Jews. In all its 1,600 pages the Report does not even mention such a thing as a gas chamber. It admits that Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and privations, but its complete silence on the subject of planned extermination is ample refutation of the Six Million legend." CONTINUED


    (2) “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE”
    https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

    Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

    The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED
     
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    But it happened. It was a special campaign under the direction of Eichmann himself, with full support of the Hungarian authorities. In nearly 2 months they were all dead.
    :(

    Nazis didn't call it genocide. They called it "Sonderbehandlung" (special treatment) or legal executions. Therefore the Red Cross did know nothing about genocide. The full scope of the Holocaust wasn't confessed until years after the end of WW2.

    We've already discussed that, but you always come up with the same assertions. :(
     
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    @Grau Mass murder of the Hungarian Jews.

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    Only one of the 1,500 transports arriving at Birkenau extermination camp was photographed: the train that entered on May 26, 1944. This train brought Jews from northern Hungary to the camp. Two SS gangsters took photos of the people getting out. The above photo shows that the victims had to line up in front of SS guards for being selected.

    After selection, men and women capable of forced labor entered the camp in prison clothing. The other group (old, sick, and children), had to wait near the gas chambers for being murdered soon.

    This transport includes 3,500 of the ~424,000 Hungarian Jews who were deported to Birkenau between May 15 and July 8, 1944.
    Almost all of them were murdered. :(
     
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    Holocaust was the Greatest Evil in Human History.

    Thank G-d, none of my ancestors were killed.
     
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    WRONG!
    The real Holocaust happened to the German people!
    Read for yourself, if you dare!

    http://library.abundanthope.org/ind...Nazi Germany 1944-1947 by Thomas Goodrich.pdf

    The grim facts about the “Hellstorm Holocaust” committed on unarmed Germans, the best-kept secret of modern history, must reach the peoples of all western nations.

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    No honest man who has read Hellstorm will continue to believe the current narrative about the Second World War.
     
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    They made Hitler their leader and supported him until his last breath. :(
    So they had to pay for it.

    World war isn't free.
    If Hitler had behaved well, nobody would speak badly of him today.
     
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    I don't think so. Communists murdered much more people than Nazis did.

     
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    Re:
    Just so I understand you correctly, are you claiming that 424,000 Jews were transported to Auschwitz, murdered/gassed and cremated and billions of bones and teeth made to disappear in 2 months time?

    That means that the Nazis would have to have murdered/gassed, cremated and hidden the remains of about 7,000 per day which is physically impossible especially since there was only enough coal/coke delivered to Auschwitz to cremate about 70,000, total.

    You can check my math but in order to murder/gas, cremate and hide the mountain of remains the Nazis would have to have rounded up, murdered, cremated & hidden the remains of about 400 people a day if they worked 24 hours per day.

    Since gas chambers need to be ventilated before they can be emptied, muffles (cremation ovens) have to be allowed to cool, cleaned and maintained, it is physically impossible to do what you claim was done even if there was enough coal/coke which there was not. There was only enough coal/coke delivered to Auschwitz to cremate about 70,000 people most of which was used to cremate the bodies of the individuals listed on the Auschwitz Death Ledger.

    So, where are the physical remains of the 424,000 people who were allegedly murdered?

    Re:
    You and other holocaustians have tried to pass off this "code word" ruse before.
    The Auschwitz Death Ledger lists the specific way in which people died. If they were killed, it specifies the way in which the person was killed which was either by hanging or shooting.
    "Sonderbehandlung" does not mean "legal executions" or any form of execution. It simply means what it says and would have applied to people suspected of typhus infection or other malady in which they required special treatment.

    The Red Cross delivered food parcels to Auschwitz and other camps but in none of its documents does it mention a mass killing agenda of any sort(1)
    You still haven't explained why de Gaulle, Churchill or Eisenhower make absolutely no mention of any mass killing or genocide in any of their post war books. Eisenhower who hated the Germans saw the camps in their absolute worst condition yet still makes no mention of a mass killing agenda. Why?
    Additionally, the only "confessions" to any form of genocide was made after the most brutal torture.

    Nowhere in any of the captured Nazi documents is there any indication of a genocidal agenda nor is there any document from Hitler calling for the destruction of Europe's Jews(2).


    (1) "A Factual Appraisal Of The 'Holocaust' By The Red Cross

    The Jews And The Concentration Camps:No Evidence Of Genocide
    http://www.polskawalczaca.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=18054

    EXCERPT "In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross found no evidence whatever at the camps in Axis occupied Europe of a deliberate policy to exterminate the Jews. In all its 1,600 pages the Report does not even mention such a thing as a gas chamber. It admits that Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and privations, but its complete silence on the subject of planned extermination is ample refutation of the Six Million legend." CONTINUED


    (2) “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”

    - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190
     
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    As long as the victors write the history, the vanquished will always be regarded as villains.

    Churchill, Stalin and Eisenhower would all have been hung as war criminals in a just world for their actions before, during and after WW 2.
    Eisenhower's real death camps are infamous to the educated(1).
    Churchill deliberately withheld food causing the deaths of millions of Indians and ordered the "roasting" of hundreds of thousands(2) and Stalin's decades of atrocities are already well known.


    (1) “Buried Alive Screaming In The Night: German POW Survivors Describe Eisenhower’s Extermination Camps After WWII Had Ended”

    https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018...ers-extermination-camps-after-wwii-had-ended/

    EXCERPTS “This is one of a series of published and planned articles detailing aspects of the Western Allies deliberate intention to murder approximately 1 million disarmed German POWs by means of unnecessary starvation, exposure, and illness.

    “The Western Allies deliberately murdered approximately 1 million disarmed German POWs by means of starvation, exposure, and illness. This Allied atrocity was first publicly exposed in 1989 in the book Other Losses by James Bacque. Bacque estimates in Other Losses that the victims undoubtedly number over 790,000, almost certainly over 900,000, and quite likely over a million. The prisoners’ deaths were knowingly caused by army officers who had sufficient resources to keep these prisoners alive. Relief organizations such as the Red Cross that attempted to help prisoners in the American camps were refused permission by the army. “CONTINUED



    (2) "Winston Churchill: the Imperial Monster"
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/28/winston-churchill-the-imperial-monster/

    EXCERPT "Prime Minister Churchill had said earlier:

    “I do not want suggestions as to how we can disable the economy and the machinery of war, what I want are suggestions as to how we can roast the German refugees on their escape from Breslau.”CONTINUED
     
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    Re:
    Why do you think this when there have been so many far greater mass tragedies even since 1900?

    For example, one never hears of the atrocities committed by West's Communist allies:

    "Stalin's Jews"

    "We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.

    In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.

    Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED

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    Additionally the Red Cross had access to all the German run camps and found no evidence of genocide. Even establishment historian Arno Myer admits that more people died of disease than were executed and all the camps were in their absolute worst condition at the end of the war due to the lack of food, medicine & other critical supplies.

    "Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its activities during the second world war (September 1, 1939 - June 30, 1947), Volumes 1 - 3 (complete)"
    https://archive.org/details/ReportOfTheInternationalCommitteeOfTheRedCrossOnItsActivitiesDuring

    EXCERPT

    "No Evidence Of Genocide
    One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that it clarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred in the camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaotic condition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims." CONTINUED
     
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    That sounds like the babbling of a child!
     
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    If children ruled the world, there would have been no Holocaust. :)
    Even Hitler became the monster as we know it, only after he was grown up.
     
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    The Nazis used "camouflage language" to cover up their crimes. They were well aware that they were doing morally the wrong thing.

    The SS-Gangster Oskar Gröning said "Versorgen" (supply) instead of mass murder.
    He also said, "If the Jews are our enemies, it is part of the war that they are killed."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Gröning
     
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    The only code or "camouflage language" the Germans used was the Enigma code which was cracked by the British early in the war(1).
    To suggest that there was some sort of "code-within-a-code" is just more desperate nonsense.

    Additionally, the Red Cross who had representatives in every camp saw no evidence of genocide either(2)

    You still haven't explained how the Germans managed to round up, murder, cremate and hide the remains of 424,000 Hungarian Jews in just 2 months.

    Where are the remains?

    There was only enough coal/coke delivered to Auschwitz to cremate about 70,000 people but no remains have been found of the 1.1 million people that the Holocaust Industry claims were murdered(3).

    Just face facts. Auschwitz-Birkenau-Monowitz were simply work / transit camps, not a "Death Camp" as claimed by the corrupt Holocaust Industry(4), (5) and Allied propagandists.



    (1) “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE”
    https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

    Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

    The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED


    (2) Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its activities during the second world war (September 1, 1939 - June 30, 1947), Volumes 1 - 3 (complete)

    https://archive.org/details/ReportOfTheInternationalCommitteeOfTheRedCrossOnItsActivitiesDuring
    EXCERPT:
    "No Evidence Of Genocide

    One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that it clarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred in the camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaotic condition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims."CONTINUED


    (3) "Auschwitz Was NOT a 'Death Camp' - Holocaust Survivor Testimony"
    https://archive.org/details/AuschwitzWasNotAdeathCamp-HolocaustSurvivorTestimony

    EXCERPT "Investigations of physical evidence and original documentation, however, have cast doubts on the Holocaust narrative that has been formed. For example, areas claimed to be mass graves, have been found with modern investigative technology to contain no human remains. Testimonies of accused perpetrators show evidence of outright fabrication, or were obtained through torture. Many of the supposed eyewitnesses have provided stories riddled by inconsistencies, describe physically impossible events, or were even total frauds who were never actually in the camps." CONTINUED


    (4) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


    (5) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED
     
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    The Brits couldn't decrypt everything. They decrypted the Hoefle telegram which states:
    But this telegram could only be understood (even unencrypted) by someone who was familiar with the Nazi genocide of the Jews. :(

    Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Höfle_Telegram
     
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    Forced laborers were housed in Monowitz. But Birkenau was mainly a large extermination facility. :(

    You've been dealing with the Holocaust for so long, but you don't know this. It makes me sad, bro. :(
     
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