accessing freedom of speech/expression.

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  1. polscie

    polscie New Member

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    a paper was saying that a meteor exploded over russia last friday.
    further, the meteor weighted about 7000 tonnes / about 15 metres
    in diametre when it entered the atmosphere at 60,000 km/hour.

    I refuse to believe that 'twas a meteor.

    how was a camera able to catch it at the rate of speed the meteor was travelling?
    accordingly this meteor exploded 20 or 25 km above the surface of the earth.
    why and how it exploded prior to hitting the surface of the earth?


    this thing that exploded in russia was NOT a METEOR.

    to me this is some weapon by russia and they did the timing of testing this weapon
    coinciding with the announcement that another larger rock miss the earth by just
    28,000kms.

    noticeably the entry was full of smoke.
    this was so in order to cover the identity of this weapon being tested.

    the smoke noticeably is man made.

    now the authority who fired this weapon has escaped condemnation from
    its own citizenship and the rest of the world.

    meteor, or testing of the latest type of weapon.

    well I am just accessing freedom of speech/expresssion.

    when MAN lied about this "GOD", HE is bound to tell lies indefinitely.

     
  2. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is this science explaining it:
    Schizophrenia (/ˌskɪtsɵˈfrɛniə/ or /ˌskɪtsɵˈfriːniə/) is a mental disorder characterized by a breakdown of thought processes and by poor emotional responsiveness.[1] Common symptoms include auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking, and it is accompanied by significant social or occupational dysfunction. The onset of symptoms typically occurs in young adulthood, with a global lifetime prevalence of about 0.3–0.7%.[2] Diagnosis is based on observed behavior and the patient's reported experiences.
     
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  3. polscie

    polscie New Member

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    Man always lie.
    Our existence is purely based on lies.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why don't you go ahead and provide some evidence for your assertion that this was a Russian weapon, including your expert's credentials on meteor trails and astrophysics in general.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    It's a pretty lame weapon if the worst it could do is injure about 1,000 people.
     
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    Agree with SpaceCricket79 - better weapons already exist. 30 years ago I'd have agreed with you.
     
  7. polscie

    polscie New Member

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    I am confident that I cannot prove that this was a russian weapon.

    my claim is based on my personal belief that Man is not and cannot tell the truth ( God made heaven and earth ).
    I personally do not believe that meteors have entered and exploded on the surface of the earth.
    There is nothing that can and will enter the surface of the earth.

    So if ever there is a big explosion/unexplained source of explosion this is purely "MAN MADE".
    Man saying that meteor had entered and exploded on the surface of the earth, to me, this is purely a cover up.


    I am really a big fan of this species as a lying form of life, it is a big lier that I could not even force myself
    to believe, this species saying and talking about this meteor and this gravity.

    This species is just a brain that have had discoveries and inventions but, for "IT" to make those past claims,
    re: gravity, black hole, big bang, photon, meteors and mind you, E is equal to mass multiplied by the speed of light squared.
    This lying species????? it just cannot be.

    It is best for this lying species to sponsor a
    universal "self extinction" resolution so that this existence may exist
    peacefully and without an unwanted intervention from IT.
     
  8. polscie

    polscie New Member

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    yeah but didn't you notice at all
    this thing did not even touch the surface,
    it exploded and from your own mouth
    a 1,000 injury.

    think, had you launched a 10, or a 100?
     
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    Angedras New Member

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    I think the incident is interesting as well, and (for me at least), left more unexplained, than explained.

    I am not qualified to speak to it, and will make no attempt, but it strikes me as odd.

    One news account I heard stated that the meteor had an explosive force 30 times that of the atomic bomb detonated at/above Hiroshima. This makes no logical sense to me, or (obviously), I'm missing the logic. Why were there not massive casualties and destruction?

    Again, I admit my ignorance, and would appreciate any information/link anyone would like to provide to help me better understand.
     
  10. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know this is silly to point out to you as wont accept science but, they exlpode because of compressive force. The air pushes on the front slowing it but the material behind it does not slow and it literally compresses / crushes the material until it explodes. The composition and size of the meteor will determine whether or not it impacts the earth or disintegrates in the atmosphere.
    The bus sized object was travelling at 15X faster than a high powered m-16 rifle shot. You dont need to be a scientist to understand that energy has to go somewhere.
    This is the same thing that happens if your car hits a concrete wall. The front stopped but the rest of the car (and you) keep going. The faster the speed the more damage.
     
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    polscie New Member

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    this is self explanatory, that was not a METEOR.

    It was a man made weapon and they were testing the power of this particular weapon.

    meteor? .....who are they kidding?
     
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    STUPID.

     
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    polscie New Member

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    you are a plagiarist
     
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    NYCmitch25 New Member

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    YEAH, and the guy I ripped it off from is an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*). ;-)
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nu-uhh

    - - - Updated - - -

    nu-uhh
     
  16. Flintc

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    OK, hopefully understanding will make it seem less odd.

    Two reasons, basically. One was, it exploded quite a bit further away from the surface, and the other was, the small town nearest to the explosion was a LOT smaller than Hiroshima.

    Many of these meteors aren't solid like a block of granite, they are much more like a solid pile of gravel you could break apart with a pickaxe. At the speed that thing was traveling relative to earth, hitting the atmosphere was much like a cliff diver hitting the water - it's like hitting a solid object (and cliff divers who don't pierce the water just right can break bones or worse). The atmosphere becomes pretty dense close to the planet's surface - that thing slammed into it and exploded at about twice the altitude an airliner can fly - far too thin for us to breathe, and still at that speed it was like hitting a wall.

    (Finally, if you study up on the Hiroshima bomb, you'll find that the actual blast didn't do all that much damage. Most of the problem there was radiation.)
     
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    how did you happen to know the texture of this supposedly (meteor)?
     
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    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    I agree, lol. They have science explaining it, but I doubt anyone took the time to actually look at the science, nor do they have the ability to apply the science to the event- unless somehow looking at the video long enough or often enough is some sort of validation. Seems like people just took a slip that said "scientific explanation" and gave the whole thing a thumbs up, a shrug, and/or a dismissal.

    Volcano eruptions, even small one's, go anywhere from a hundred to a thousand times more powerful than the classic nuclear explosion, but their destruction isn't so apparent always.

    Either way, all I saw was a bright light and heard an explosion of some sort. It has an official explanation, but most things do- whether or not they turned out to be true or false. Liked your answer, though. You weren't quick to jump on one side or the other.
     
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    Obviously, nobody went and took samples. But for reasons of pure coincidence, there were plenty of photos of it as it came through the atmosphere and exploded, and from those we can reconstruct a most-probable structure. If it were a loose pile of gravel, earth's gravity would have turned it into a very long chain of small bits, which would have burned up much sooner. Conversely, if it had been a solid rock held together by electromagnetic forces (like a solid rock on earth), it was large enough to have reached the ground and blasted a sizeable crater. We know how far it got into the atmosphere, how large it was, and how fast it was moving. We know how it exploded. It really is possible to reconstruct its structure from these observations.
     
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    Fast moving objects appear to move slower if they are being viewed from a distance. Same reason why jet planes appear to move so slow across the sky.
     
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    I don't think the object was a weapon, but I was thinking something on this subject that may be interesting.

    Why not use meteors or objects like them as weapons? If a large object coming into the atmosphere so fast and under so much pressure and heat could cause as much damage as this seemingly small rock did, then why not use weapons designed for atmospheric entry at the correct angle and speed? We know the way it happens, why isn't it used?
     
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    because we already have much more powerful weapons that dont need to escape the earth gravitational pull.
     
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    1. Meteorites travel at up to 8km/s. At a high enough altitudes (as this one was) this is perfectly viewable.

    2. The same thing happens with all meteorites. Are you saying that in the several thousand years of meteorite observations they've all been faked by the Russian government? How?

    3. Why would Russia test some weapon above their own country and kill a bunch of their own people+destroy their property? Russia might be a totalitarian state but it's not irrational like that.

    4. Some (*)(*)(*)(*) weapon aye, it only killed a few people!


    I don't think your argument makes any sense, but to each their own I guess.
     
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    I think it was god.
    Russia passes a law that limits gay rights and god strikes it with a meteor.
    God is probably gay.

    Yes the after blast was because of a weapon that hit the object as far as i understand.
     
  25. polscie

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    your entry caught me flat footed for a while.
    but let me try.


    to me meteors do not have a good chance of entering the earth's atmosphere, hence
    exploding upon hitting the surface of the earth or even prior.

    to me the earth atmosphere is so thick that not even one single meteor has the capability
    to make a successful entry, what more explode.

    the claim that a big meteor had crashed on the surface of the earth
    and caused the extinction of those
    dinos is a lie.

    the past just made this up and as a result
    is just a false justufication.

    nothing can ever enter our astmosphere.
     

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