Across US, People Rally For 'Justice For Trayvon'

Across US, People Rally For 'Justice For Trayvon'

By Bill Barrow | Associated Press | 07/20/2013
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ATLANTA (AP) – “One week after a jury found George Zimmerman not guilty in the death of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin, people gathered for nationwide rallies to press for changes to self-defense laws and for federal civil rights charges against the former neighborhood watch leader.

The Florida case has become a flashpoint in separate but converging national debates over self-defense laws, guns, and race relations. Zimmerman, who successfully claimed self-defense, identifies as Hispanic. Martin was black.

The Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network organized the "Justice for Trayvon" rallies and vigils outside federal buildings in at least 101 cities: from New York and Los Angeles to Wichita, Kan., and Atlanta, where people stood in the rain at the base of the federal courthouse, with traffic blocked on surrounding downtown streets.

Most rallies were scheduled for noon local times. Hundreds of people - including music superstars Jay-Z and Beyonce, as well as Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton - gathered in New York.

Fulton told the crowd she was determined to fight for societal and legal changes needed to ensure that black youths are no longer viewed with suspicion because of their skin color.

"I promise you I'm going to work for your children as well," she said to the rally crowd.

At a morning appearance at Sharpton's headquarters in Harlem, she implored people to understand that the tragedy involved more than Martin alone. "Today it was my son. Tomorrow it might be yours," she said.

In addition to pushing the Justice Department to investigate civil rights charges against Zimmerman, Sharpton told supporters he wants to see a rollback of stand-your-ground self-defense laws.

"We are trying to change laws so that this never, ever happens again," Sharpton said.

Stand-your-ground laws are on the books in more than 20 states, and they go beyond many older, traditional self-defense statutes. In general, the laws eliminate a person's duty to retreat in the face of a serious physical threat.

Zimmerman did not invoke Florida's stand-your-ground law, instead relying on a traditional self-defense argument. Nor was race discussed in front of the jury that acquitted Zimmerman. But the two topics have dominated public discourse about the case, and came up throughout Saturday's rallies.

"The verdict freed George Zimmerman, but it condemned America more," said Johnson, pastor of the Eastern Star Church in Indianapolis and a member of the board of directors of the National Action Network.

Attorney General Eric Holder announced this week that his department would investigate whether Zimmerman could be charged under federal civil rights laws. Such a case would require evidence that Zimmerman harbored racial animosity against Martin. Most legal experts say that would be a difficult charge to bring.

Holder said the shooting demonstrates the need to re-examine stand-your-ground laws.”

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IMO: The kangaroo court trial in Sanford, Fla. and its outcome shows that racial profiling is still active and serious in our courtrooms today as an unpaid watchdog for a subdivision, who had some untold personal violence problems himself, stalked an unarmed black teenager who was walking back to his father’s house, confronted him, attacked him, shot the teenager to death. He was arrested 44 days later because of public pressure.

He subsequently went to trial and pleaded self defense, was found not guilty in a questionable trial in which the judge did not allow evidence to the jury be shown that in previous cases, you cannot plead self defense then stalk a victim, attack him and kill him without being designated as the aggressor, thereby losing your self defense plea.

Zimmerman had a record of violence, was an avid martial arts student, and was in prime physical condition when he attacked Trayvon Martin, and shot him dead.

Only a misguided citizen would say that this was a fair trial, and brings us to the fact that race was a primary issue in the trial, but was never mentioned.

In the meantime, unless laws are changed drastically, blacks will continue to be racially profiled in our courts of law and the guilty will be found innocent in a profound declaration that it is ok to kill a black person because while you are the only one with a gun, you can still feel threatened.

 

Your opinion lives outside the facts. The black community does not want "justice" for Trayvon. They got that. They want mob rule. Justice is only just when it fits their beliefs.

There is absolutely 0 evidence indicating that his skin color had anything to do with anything.

It is completely contrived, and continually presenting it as fact, when the FBI has deemed it is fiction, is hurting our country. This is not helpful to race relations... because the narrative is locked in a loop of contrivance. I must first begin any discussion on race relations by addressing the reality of TM, and it does not go well from there. The black community is largely ignorant to what happened. I spent an hour arguing with the staff at Applebees who were in an uproar about it, that TM was not shot in the back running away.

YOU are damaging race relations.

There are actual shameful, dangerous systemic problems in law enforcement dealing with the black community I for one would like to see addressed. We can't do this so long as this fairy tale of what occurred in someones mind is the underpinning for the conversation.

You (*)(*)(*)(*)ed this all up. You continue to.

Stop.

 

not what his teacher says..
http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/08/j...s-mma-instructor-says-he-was-a-lousy-fighter/

 

Kangaroo court? A kangaroo court is one where the outcome is already decided and jurors do not decide on their own the verdict. This is not the case at all in the Zimmerman case. The Prosecution remains livid that they lost. Clearly the Prosecution was not in some sort of conspiratory "fix". This was a trial of rules and accuracy of justice. The Judge was certainly not involved in a "fix". If anything she seemed to be jaded the other way, omitting and trying to omit evidence from the trial and stepping out of bounds trying to get Zimmerman to testify. Maybe you do not know what a "kangaroo court" really is.

Secondly "profiling" or a more accurate term "looking at" someone walking around in a development at night by a neighborhood watch volunteer is not wrong at all. This is exactly what he is supposed to do.

 

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At the time of the stalking and murder, Zimmerman was in excellent shape to fight a black teenager because he was armed and the teenager was not. Anything his teacher would say in relation to Zimmerman's prowess is hearsay, as he had a definite conflict of interest in anything he said. Zimmerman's rapid gain in weight for trial where he sat there like a fat blimp and sweating like a pig was in direct conflict with his record of violence.

No matter how you attempt to 'spin' it, it was a hate crime that was not allowed in court, as race was not allowed in the evidence presented, as specified by the judge. A white man shot a black teenager to death and walked out of court a free man.

 

Clearly then you think there is no way a white guy can shoot a black guy in self defense.

 

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/21/Justice-for-Trayvon-Protests-Draw-Small-Crowds-Nation-Moves-On

It looks like Al Sharptons attempts to create a national protest has fallen short and the lefts attempts to stir people up have failed.

These people have no decency.

Everyone else has moved on because we have the best justice system in the world and these degenerates seem to forget that fact.

 

Please post your evidence that this was a hate crime and when I say evidence I mean evidence not Al Sharpton talking points. The full weight of the prosecution produced not one shred of evidence showing this was a hate crime. If you have evidence...then why on earth didn't you come forward during the trial? You could have put him behind bars.

 

The protests were tiny and not news worthy.

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/312889-justice-trayvon-protests-draw-small-crowds-nation-moves.html

 

By posting this, it shows that you haven't moved on. You're focus seems to be more on some Black people's reaction than the actual trial. The turnout should at least tell you that not everyone is so invested in this trial as you seem to be.

You move on...

 

I have moved on. I'm posting this to show that those degenerates are being left behind while everyone else has moved on.

 

Nah. You wouldn't be concerned with a rally, or bringing attention back to it if you did. By your posts wording, I would have expected a Black person to be mulling over this issue, but it's not. It's you.

 

Fulton told the crowd she was determined to fight for societal and legal changes needed to ensure that black youths are no longer viewed with suspicion because of their skin color.

What legal changes does this idiot will ensure that blacks boys are viewed, as they should, as likely to be criminals. She could have ensured that her son was not viewed as a criminal by teaching him not to case houses for his burglary profession, teaching him not to hit people on the nose and try to kill them but what she is doing in insuring that blacks are viewed as militant and so biased that they are willing to kill innocent white people in spite of the facts of this case.

This case might not have happened if: Zimmerman had wet his pants when Little Trayvon approached Zimmerman in his vehicle, Had LT just kept walking to him father's girl friend's house, Had LT just knocked Z down and left the scene, had Z chose death over killing LT when LT was pounding Z's head against the sidewalk.

But we all know that he is lying. 286 and his HP&Soros handlers know that it is a lie but the progressive agenda of destruction uses the "End justifies the means." tactic of racial divisiveness.

I blame the ignorant whites and Blacks who get their news from comedians and agents of diverseness like JJ and Sharpton.

 

the jury has already given a verdict, there is no more "justice" to be had in this case, these people are just venting their frustration, other then that, they are accomplishing nothing

 

justoneman:

You are wrong on all counts: a kangaroo court is one that the judge presides over allowing some evidence, discarding other evidence, disallowing every bit of evidence from the jury that will decide the case based on the meager evidence allowed, ruling against the prosecution repeatedly, improper selection of the all white jury, setting the groundwork for the ultimate decision of the jurors by her handling of the attorneys motions. The whole thing became a circus of set-ups precluding any justice comcerning Trayvon's murder.

I notice that your disinclination to use the words 'racial profiling' and using the words 'look at' are proof that you think racial profiling was used by Zimmerman. It was Zimmerman driving around in his truck, searching for Trayvon, getting our of his truck, crossing the street, confronting the teenager, attacking him and shooting an unarmed black teenager who was the aggressor in all instances...thereby losing his plea of 'self defense' in this case.

Finally, as Zimmerman was told by th dispatcher not to confront the person, to wait for the police, Zimmerman clearly disobeyed orders, and shows animus toward a black person wearing a hoodie in his subsequent stalking of the boy, confrontation, and murder of an unarmes black teenager walking to his Dad's house carrying a can of iced tea and a bag of skittles.

Justice was not served in this case, and possibly many more cases where the defendant is black or Hispanic. Travels around the court system will clearly show you that.

 

Wrong sub forum. Move this to the Zimmerman forum!!!!!!!!!

 

I do not think it is that. It's because, like smarter people, the political blacks realize that marches do not accomplish anything - eventually legislation has to be written to correct the problem.

Looking at the pictures from the demonstration in New York, it was attended by peaceful-types, and probably had Police Athletic League guys walking the protest looking for trouble makers. Obviously, the gangs did not show for the organized protest; and so, it was probably a good community day for blacks with a refreshment tent sponsored by the city and businesses. They got Beyonce and Jay-Zzzz in New York, probably did a number or two - that's a good idea. Maybe next month they'll have a "Save the Black Children" charity concert with all the big stars waiting for white people to send in money.


See these two guys with the strong builds - they're probably cops, and it's a contingent of children, not twenty-somethings like in the 1960's Civil Rights marches.


It's probably all about the money - Trayvon's mother doesn't realize that is why the T-shirt print of Trayvon has him in a green hoodie.

 

Nationwide rallies against the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin drew small crowds, a sign that Americans had largely accepted the verdict and that race relations are not nearly as frayed as Al Sharpton's National Action Network had sought to indicate. The flagship rally in New York only drew a crowd of "hundreds," while a rally in Newport News, Virginia struggled to draw two dozen.

It appears that my opinion of the intellect of Blacks is closer to correct than the opinion of the progressive agents of anarchy. Too many Blacks want to keep themselves and their homes out of the firing line. Why risk their lives in a violent protest that ends up costing the Black neighborhoods in jobs and services?

Could there be hpoe and change as the America loving Blacks defy BH Obama and refuse to kill whites in the streets over the justified killing of the NLN thug LT??

Blacks are the only ones who can take back their culture from the poverty pimps and progressives who want to impression Blacks in the culture of violence that so many of them suffer all of their lives.

 

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Hmmm...you sound upset, you prolly wanted this to go down quietly, with no comments by Americans that can see injustice from an alleged court of justice. This case stinks, and you know it and that is why you are upset by anyone speaking their mind!! This is a Democracy and everyone is entitled to their opinion...YOU don't want to hear any difference of opinion other than yours. Adolf Hitler felt the same way.

You say that I damage race relations? That you can say that justice was done tells us that you swallowed another great miscarriage of justice done to blacks. You are forgetting the nasty history America has concerning American Indians, early immigrants, blacks, women, and now Hispanics. America is a class society and will not change.

 

The evidence presented was that the only person with a possible racial motivation was Martin. THE FBI INVESTIGATED FOR MONTHS at the behest of the DoJ (who fabricated this whole race debate as a subtext to gun-control) and found that Zimmerman did not act on any bias of race. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE indicating racial bias on the part of Zimmerman. It is just made up... in your head... because 4 of the 46 previous calls by Zimmerman... who was the NW point man... were black suspects. It is also completely disregarded the testimony of neighbors that witnessed DOZENS of attempted break ins, that almost ALL of the suspects were young black males.

The only person issuing racial epithets that night, was Trayvon Martin. The only person with injuries from a fight, is Zimmerman, save the hand of the deceased.

That this was racially motivated, or a "hate crime" on the part of Zimmerman, is completely... 100%... contrived. If anything it was the other way around.

 

The facts do not bear out your hypothesis.

This is about stand your ground laws. You were suckered. Watch the DoJ not file civil rights charges, and steer the conversation to gun control.

Your side has been continually wrong. Get used to disappointment.

 

So let me get this straight. You think the Judge through disallowing evidence and ruling against the Prosecution at various times during the trial, had the fix on and that is why the Jury ruled as they did? I say that is ridiculous. The Judge ruled far more in favor of disallowing crucial Defense evidence and ruled far more against the Defense during the trial. As far as the jury selection process, the Prosecution has as great an effect on Jury selection as the Defense. This is why there were no men on the Jury. The Prosecution sent the men off.

 

Yes. It was sort of pathetic. NY was big, LA was big, and Florida was pretty sizable... but the "at least 100 cities" BS is just that. Most of those cities had fewer than 40 people. What NAN is, is a network of preachers who send their parishes off when Sharpton asks. It is frankly (*)(*)(*)(*)ing criminal. Formed in 91, it was what set off the LA riots. The best thing the black community could do, is organize under actual leaders. The race pimps do nothing but hold them back.

 

Wrong sub forum.

 

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simple: The judge denied any reference to 'race' in the trial, thereby tainting the case from the start. How does an attorney produce 'evidence' of a hate crime that was already denied by the judge? She set the rules the attorneys were to be allowed to play by.

You don't have to be a genius to see where racial animus was the causational effect of the murder of an unarmed young black teenager walking down the sidewalk being stalked by an armed unpaid neighborhood-watch volunteer with a history of violence.

I think zimmerman was a hunter stalking his prey that night; he got him, then walked out of court a free man.
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