AFA's Bryan Fischer advocates kidnapping gay couples' children

Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association, long known for expressing extreme viewpoints, has argued via twitter that "we need an Underground Railroad to deliver innocent children from same-sex households". In other words, he advocates kidnapping children being raised by same-sex couples.

In my nearly 50 years of living I've witnessed plenty of extreme statements about gay people, but this is pretty bold, considering the prominence of the organization in socially conservative circles.

Seriously - gay people aren't supposed to be at least a little bit concerned when a spokesman for a political organization like the AFA advocates kidnapping our children?

What is an appropriate response - especially in light of Fischer's role in the political process and the attention he is given by GOP candidates seeking favor with the party's socially conservative wing?

I find this simply outrageous.

https://twitter.com/BryanJFischer/status/233004494584164352

 

Another link from Twitter; notice that Fischer isn't denying advocating kidnapping when directly confronted about his tweet:

https://twitter.com/boopumpkins/status/233011287880257536

 

One appropriate response might be that, if anybody does kidnapo a child from a gay couple, every gay person or their friends who have no conflicting schedule should swarm Fischer's house and knock it to the ground board-by-board to see if he is hiding the child there.

 

I actually sent the author of the article that Fischer is using to justify his statement an Email. I told him that Fischer is using his article to justify the kidnapping of children from gay and lesbian and households and asked if, based on his own experience, if he agrees with him.

I wonder if he will respond...

 

Chic-fil-A supports that guy.

Yes, Dan Cathy gives the AFA money.

 

Chic-Fil-A sponsors terrorists.

 

That's cool, so I totally respect your right not to eat there. That'd be a way more effective means of protest than making out in the lobby of a Chick Fil A or spray painting on the wall.

 

Bill Maher donates money to PETA and has served as a board member of the group, which has donated money in the defense of eco-terrorists on trial, and has members who have physically assaulted people who are against their cause. Therefore Bill Maher sponsors terrorists.

 

Actually the article does not say they gave the AFA money. It says that Dan Cathy sponsored an "All Pro Dad" event which is hosted by a group called "Family First", which is an affiliate of the American Family Association. You got your facts wrong.

Plus the "All Pro Dad" events are about developing father/son relationships, not about gays at all.

So we went from Dan Cathy sponsoring an event by a separate organization not directly part of the AFA, to "Chick Fil A donates money to terrorists" - it amazes me how the leftist mind works.

 

Well I doubt his comment was literal - but in all honesty I can understand why some people are against the idea of children growing up without a traditional mother/father enviroment - sorry, but regardless of rights, many people just understand that the ideal environment is for a kid to grow up with a mother and a father, not two dads or two moms.

 

This thread is not about Chick-fil-A, and I will not hesitate to request the board's moderators to step in if people persist in going off topic.

Consider yourselves duly warned.

 

It is about Chick Fil A because a member claimed that they donate money to Brian Fischer, but that was not accurate - he didn't bother to read his own source material.

 

Rhetorical then? Either way, it's still an outrageous thing to suggest.

How extreme would people like Fischer have to get before you would say they've gone too far? Or are you really that willing to throw yourself down the rabbit-hole after him? <- this is directed to all who don't think Fischer has crossed a moral line here, not just SpaceCricket79.

As can I - but that doesn't mean I agree with their bias in the least.

Well, that's the crux of this, isn't it? The blatant disregard for parental rights when it's a same-sex couple raising children. Pretty much says it all.

That's not an "understanding", it's a biased generalization.

I'm showing considerable restraint here. There's a particular video I'd just love to post as my response to Fischer and his ilk, but it would be inappropriate for this forum. It also wouldn't be constructive. Everytime I try to come up with a mature response to this outrage, I end up right back where I started - wanting to raise my middle finger at all the haters who just don't get it. I simply cannot see how there's any room for trying to have a rational discussion of something this irrational. I'm pretty much at the point where I've decided that talking gets us absolutely nowhere. People are either so far to the polar opposite on this that there's no point in indulging them, or they're so apathetic that getting them to pay attention to what's happening in this country is a lost cause.

Which is part of why you won't be seeing much of me on this forum.

 

No, it most certainly is not about Chick-fil-A outside the scope of that one comment. We are not going down that road. Do not press your luck with me.

 

Are you gay?

 

sounds like he is advocating the kidnapping of children, sounds like that would be a crime would it not

 

Not really trying to dilute the wrongness of this fruity guy's opinion to kidnap children of gay couples...but looking at the current trend I'm willing to bet there is more of a chance a fruity gay couple will have their children kidnapped for the sake of the cause.

 

I am not the topic of debate. If you're not going to address my points and the actual topic, then I'm going right back to ignoring you.

 

The general advocacy of such an act as a rhetorical device wouldn't be a crime. Fisher is operating within the law and his rights here, repugnant as his statements may be.

An actual kidnapping would indeed be a crime. I am wondering how long it will take for some idiot to attempt such a thing.

 

Which would be just as abhorrent. I really can't abide people who fake things; that doesn't help anyone's cause.

 

What matters most is whether the child is brought up in a safe home where he or she is loved and nurtured.

Can we count on that if some band of religious whackadoodles hauls the child out of there to be placed in some sort of "therapeutic environment" to teach them that the custodial parent was EVVVIIIIL?

Of course not.

 

I agree, I wouldn't want a child being raised in a cultish environment - but as a kid if I had to pick, I'd pick a mom/dad over a gay couple - kids who are raised by gay parents might be subject to teasing or bullying because of it and grow up to have self-esteem problems or hate their parents.

 

And your solution to this is to take away the gay couples child rather than...confront the bullies?

That's like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

 

Hey, for someone who says gay's should stop shoving it in people faces and making an issue of it, it's odd that you would ask such a question.

 

More on Fischer here.