Africa’s new colonists: American evangelical Christians

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  1. Hairytic

    Hairytic New Member

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    What's your definition of a Christian?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hitler was a Christian.. a bad one I give you that, but a Christian just the same... same as the 911 terrorists were Muslim... bad ones, but Muslims just the same
     
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    Hitler was appealing to Germans who believed in God.

    We're he alive today he would be as solidly anti Christian as any other progressive.
     
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    He clearly was NOT a Christian! There is no scripture found anywhere that supports what he did. Christians believe the New Testament is the New Covenant with God, find me some New Testament scripture that supports what Hitler did, then you may have a starting point fort a discussion. Absent that, you have nothing at all.
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    TRue enough, but I am not aware of any violent Christians.
     
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    Bigotry? By declaring themselves homosexuals they readily admit to that behavior. Christianity says that behavior is a sin, so there is no bigotry. They admit to behavior that Christians deem to be wrong. There is no prejudice, just belief and personal opinion.
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    :lol: "kill the gay ones" Now that is some serious lying hyperbole there!
     
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    Hitler was only one of many "progressives" who have brought so much misery suffering and death to the planet.

    There was also Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and others.
     
  7. Whaler17

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    This is VERY TRUE. The OP is just an example of progressives disdain for the worship of anything other than the almighty government!
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    Prove it! Prove that these few agnostic people do more than the combined efforts of all Chritsian organizations. You know what you posted is a lie.
     
  8. Defengar

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    Libs always travel in packs and make coordinated attacks.

    This story is just one of many being churned out by the left in support of the gay rights bill in the senate.
     
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    He hasn't just built schools. literally anyone can do that. He has paved the way for the eradication of Polio and Malaria.

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    Are you literate? Thats a whole list of christian terrorist attacks.
     
  12. Whaler17

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    Again, prove that what they have done is more than the combined efforts of all Christian organizations.



    I am likely more literate than you by a long shot, and Wikipedia is not a valid source.
     
  13. Hairytic

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    Yes, exactly. I think some Christians would rather think all Christians are good and thrive to be more Christ like. They don't want to admit the truth, that some Christians are just not good people.
     
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    You have religious people and you have Christians. You can not be a Christian and be against what Jesus taught. As much as atheist want to try and pin this group down as Christian, they aren't. No more than Hitler was or the KKK. If you knew anything about the New Testament, you'd know that.
     
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    Except in Uganda where they actually did propose killing gay people, if you read the article in the OP.
     
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    Christians did? I am going to need more proof than a single article to believe that!
     
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    Scott Lively, the American missionary behind Uganda's "Kill the Gays" bill, has returned to Russia.

    Though facing trial for crimes against humanity for his role in Uganda’s anti-LGBT movement, Lively is determined to give a helping hand to Russia's crackdown on LGBT rights.

    On his blog the anti-gay activist revealed the charming details of his week-long “mission to bolster the Russian pro-family movement.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...der-russia_n_4131833.html?utm_hp_ref=uk&ir=UK
     
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    I do not accept that anyone is a Christian unless the New Testament has scripture that supports their actions. Got anything?
     
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    In the New Testament (NT) there are at least three passages that may refer directly to homosexual activity: Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10, and 1 Timothy 1:9–10. A fourth passage, Jude 1:7, is often interpreted as referring to homosexuality. None of the four gospels mentions the subject directly, and there is nothing about homosexuality in the Book of Acts, in Hebrews, in Revelation, or in the letters attributed to James, Peter, and John.

    More at the link.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_New_Testament
     
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    Okay, let me draw you a picture:

    There are now Christian missionaries, fleeing the USA because of our recent social changes, who are what even the Christian scriptures call "Wolves in sheep's clothing." You know them by their actions... In this case, from the OP, insisting on killing the gay people, and, even if you don't care about gay people, in addition to that they also want African countries to start wars against each other. These war hawk, imperialist scum are trying to recreate the manifest-destiny spirit that led the USA to conquer much of the North American continent.
     
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    Jesus taught us to love our enemies and it was not our place to judge others. As for killing anyone. Jesus spoke against it. Christians believe you are free to do what you want and that you will be judged at the end by God. That is what heaven and hell is all about. You can't be for murdering someone and be a Christian. It just can't be no matter how much you want to make it out like that.
     
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    Except, of course that many Christians, like Hitler, were and are very un-Christ like
     
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    Read my post above yours. You don't know a thing of what a Christian is.
     
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    My church's position is that it will accept gay and lesbian members but deems homosexuality as incompatible with Christian teaching, as is the position of a lot of churches--hate the sin, not the sinner.
     
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    I actually know a great deal about the New Testament. I would also agree with you, but knowing that people interpret the bible differently (which is why there are so many different denominations in Christianity) leaves your premise lacking. When I read the bible and look at Christians around me, they don't follow everything Jesus taught either but they are good people and I would assume you would view them as Christians. There are also some things Jesus taught that, in my opinion, are not good. Jesus said you must hate your family before you can follow him. How would you interpret that?

    The truth is that the bible can be used to justify all sorts of horrible human behavior. Just because the violent Christians give the good ones a bad rep is no reason to claim they are not Christian. They are simply following their interpretation of the bible.
     

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