After Virginia Tech shooting, gun violence still claims victims on college campuses

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  1. Galileo

    Galileo Well-Known Member

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    now you're just trolling
     
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    No, it is a response to the lie that there are States with Laxative Gun laws.
    And there are not any such States as all States must conform to B.A.T.F. Federal Firearms laws.
    Epic Fail.
     
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    your lexicon is too unsophisticated than to include the word "lax"?

    that's a damn shame.
     
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    Keep on insulting, it is what you do yet accused others of.
     
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    I am karma
     
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    you want to own that given the common phrase "karma is a bitch"
    the fact is the OP really proves nothing
     
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    They do shoot off their (North end) mouths at Rap "concerts" though it counts very little as music.
    They also shoot off their South ends too.

    "Late this afternoon investigators were still interviewing witnesses and victims," Smith told ABC News. "Last night there was some talk about it being gang-related. After our investigator met with the TSU police department the motive for the shooting is not known."

    Perhaps violent Rap inspires violent behavior ?
     
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    I guess country music inspired the Las Vegas Massacre?
     
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    If it has the same lyrics putting down Women
    As Ho's and other derogatory stuff, Yes.
     
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    you have a time machine or something?

    is this 1995?
     
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    It is not 1904 either, Yet I can still listen to Enrico Caruso.
    A bit over 100 years ago.

    114 years to be more precise.



    Ahhh, Nostalgia....
     
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    Gangs and Cholos ?
    Crips, Bloods etc....
    And other assorted criminals.
     
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    "An analysis performed for CNN found that states that have enacted magazine restrictions are associated with fewer mass shooting events.

    " 'Whether a state has a large capacity ammunition magazine ban is the single best predictor of the mass shooting rate in that state,' said Michael Siegel, a community health science professor at Boston University, who conducted the analysis. These states are associated with a 63% lower rate of mass shootings, according to his analysis."
    https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/politics/gun-laws-magazines-las-vegas/index.html

    Wow, that is a big difference.
     
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    What about the other shooting? Ever look at the rate at HBCU's. Nah, they're a protected class.
     
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    There isn't enough data or that many mass shootings to support any statistical analysis.
     
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    The fact that someone has already managed to perform such analysis proves you wrong.
     
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    So any published report claiming statistical meaning is always right? So pleased that you've embrace Kleck's numbers on DGUs. I knew we could count on you.
     
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    Did you miss this near the top of the story: "Siegel's analysis only found a correlation, and is not a causal explanation".

    More:

    "The states that have banned large-capacity magazines still struggle with enforcement, and the effects of their policies are largely unknown."

    "The data is from Stanford's Mass Shooting database, which looks at events with three or more victims (not necessarily fatalities)" Any repeating firearm is capable of "three or more victims".

    "A separate study released Monday in the Journal of Urban Health found high-capacity magazines have been used in over 40% of the murders of police in recent years" How many cops were killed in a mass shooting? If you're killing one or two people, a ten round magazine works just as well.

    "High-capacity semi-automatics have grown from 33% to 112% as a share of crime guns since the expiration of the federal ban" - which means nothing with regards to how many shots are actually fired in a crime. "Homicide incidents involving three or more victims have also increased during this same period, but have remained less than 1% of all homicides each year."

    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
     
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    Straw man. Kleck didn't have any data beyond the unverified claims a small percentage of people made in a survey. The CNN analysis is based on better data.
     
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    Right. The CNN analysis has the flaws I mentioned above and more.
     

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