Age 80 is different now than in 1776

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Is it really? We could have 2 basically Octogenarians to choose from next year.

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    Joe Biden’s announcement that he’s running for another term raises concerns for many Americans. At his potential second inauguration, he would be 82, beating himself in becoming the oldest among American presidents.

    Aging has changed dramatically over the centuries. Medicine and better lifestyles have significantly diminished the effects of time.

    In the past, things were much different. In 1783, for example, at age 51, Gen. George Washington resigned his military commission and took a hard look at himself.
    Biden's age raises concerns. Yet in 1776, Americans admired old sages. (usatoday.com)
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    Should we have to choose between 2 basic 80 yr olds for president?
    Why?
    Where's the next gen?
    Does it matter?
     
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    I was disappointed to see him announce, and same goes for Trump. I am still hoping he did it only to keep GOP off balance, and in the end they'll run someone else.
     
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    What does the D party have, about 6 months for that to play out before it's too late? 9 months tops?
    I too, was hoping a newer generation would finally take hold of the country's future.
    I think the boomer's have done enough.
     
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    It depends on the person. An 80 year old is more apt to have problems than a 50 year old and Biden obviously has problems.
     
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    The could pretend he has to stop the campaign last minute due to health reasons.
     
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    Biden looks like he's in pain, watch him walk, he's hurting.
     
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    Name anyone over the age of 50 that doesn't have pain.
    I think one of the Roosevelts was in a wheel chair.
    So, pain should not be the thing that matters.
     
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    Forget the man's age -- look at him and listen to him. He could be 50 or he could be 100, either age doesn't matter. What matters is his cognitive ability, or lack of. Biden's family, his handlers, the liberal media, and the democratic party should hang their heads in shame.
     
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    He had to do it in order to avoid lame duckness. I have believed for a long time that the DNC won't allow him to get on the ballot. They will do the same thing they did to Sanders last time.
     
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    In a country where politics is black and white and is solely about winning this is what we get. Biden should not run in '24. Nor should Trump.
     
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    Yes.
    Given the brutality of the media on opponents and their families and associates, we are not getting the best people in the ring that America offers. What normal and rational person wants to take the abuse and be destroyed by the politics of personal destruction.
    Many here think it's fine and dandy to persecute a politician because you don't like him. You love it even more when the media does it harder and better! It's a blood fest with free beer and someone else's blood!
    The best of American talent salutes the flag and says, "No way in hell! I will pass!"
     
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    I don't worry about who runs, I worry about the voters who go to the polls.
     
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    Yes, that is true. If he said he is not running, he'd become a lame duck at that moment, and we are still 1.5 yr from the elections.
     
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    Going to have to start doing American debates at nursing homes.
     
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    For many years now our duopoly has been intellectually and morally bankrupt. If it comes to pass that Trump and Biden will be the 2 candidates in 24 our rotten system will have reached its nadir.
     
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    I'm not in the group that thinks the presidential campaign will be Trump v Biden. Even when some say it looks like that will come to pass based on what we see today, but many happenings can take place in 1 to 1.5 years. We will probably see many changes take place in our country and the world and some may have an impact on the campaign. We seem to spend a lot of time speculating, arguing, and discussing today who will be the candidates in the general election over a year from now. Relax folks, it will come to pass, just like always.
     
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    Yes, that does matter.
    Biden has yet to be laughed at on the world stage. Unlike the previous president who also is running again at near age 80.
     
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    How come in 2016, 16 Repubs vied for the job?
    I think 2020, Dems also had near 16 vie for it also?

    There's never a shortage of people wanting to run.
    But for some reason, the voters keep picking the oldest. The boomers.
    Time to let the boomers pass the torch.
     
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    trump is not guaranteed. He was in 2020 as the sitting president.
    But as a sitting president, Biden is likely guaranteed if he stays in the running.

    Note: that is to run for the office, not to win the office.

    But we do have primaries, voters are voting.
    They are choosing. How many expected trump as the candidate in 2016?
     
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    I don't disagree.
    Those who are favored 1.5 before, rarely end up the winner in the end.
    However, a sitting president is rarely seriously challenged. And that is the gist of this thread.

    Perhaps Biden drops out if trump does or gets primaried.
    It's just sad we have to discuss those 2 at all.
     
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    They were already part of the regular stew of politicians. There was no new blood but Trump. And I expect a boomer on the democrat ticket in '24. BTW, they really aren't "made men" for around 12 years, because they don't have the seniority to sit down with the bosses.
    Biden isn't going to make it two more years. I saw a montage of Biden's speeches with segments linked together over the last ten or so years. It really illustrates that father time marches on... over you if necessary. The democrat swamp is panicking and so is the democrat establishment, and the media is hinting there will be no more hiding candidates in the basement.
    And BTW, it is dangerous for the country. World leaders often want to talk to the "man in charge". The media may be fooling you, but he isn't fooling world leaders.
     
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    It's too costly for those who don't have their own money, that they would choose to spend on a campaign.
    Even for those who've had their own money to spend, it wasn't enough or the voters never chose them.

    There's a reason why campaign finance reform never happens, it's another tool to keep out the outsiders. IMO.

    Those not a part of DNC or RNC have virtually no chance.
     
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