Ahmadinejad: World forces must strive to annihilate Israel

I can't understand this. I know that there were two different thoughts among the Jews in the 19th century. One was 'internationalism', where some Jews believed that nations shouldn't exist and they became Bolsheviks/communists. The other ones believed in nations and they became Zionists because they wanted their own nation/state. Now I know the Muslims believe in caliphates and not in separate nations, so I can understand it when they say they are against the Jewish/Zionist state. What I can't understand is why are the Palestinians saying they want their own nation/state when they are Muslims and don't believe in nation/states?

 

Actually that's a lie. My deacon spent quite some time in Israel, and he enjoyed it, but then again we have power over the Israelis, after all our Orthodox Patriarch owns the land the Knesset is on. Now if it was under Islamic rule instead of Jewish rule, this wouldn't be a problem for them. All they would have to do is arouse the Muslims with some kind of fantastic tale about a priest talking to a Muslim woman, and the land would be exchanged for their lives.

 

I have.

I take my facts from the Geneva convention and the UN.

And from a plethora of other human rights groups.

It is as plain as day.

Israel are a lunatic state, they are a terrorist state, and they are operating above laws which everyone else is expected to adhere to.

And land theft, murder, and illegal occupation are sound reasons to isolate and press sanctions against them.

You may find this interesting..

[video=youtube;Sdfh_0uXw60]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdfh_0uXw60[/video]

 

No.

It is not a lie.

I have shown before, the life of Christians in Iran v those in Israel.

Extensively I have shown this.

Ta ta....

 

... Then lets see links to statements by the groups saying these crimes occurred along with reasonable evidence that they did occur. They better contain evidence that it actually happened or they are just another radical group of people making baseless accusations.

 

Look, bud, you are 18.

I do not have time to sit here, and give you links.

Why not look for yourself, that way you cannot complain later, that you did not like my links.

What precisely is it you want?

I have told you, go look yourself, of the crimes.

I have told you that all of this is available, from the UN, etc, etc.

You didn't even watch that film, you can't have.

So why should I bother?

I am not here to win your vote.

 

You do know that Northern Cyprus was ethnically cleansed forty years ago, and they are all well and prosperous now.

And who started them?

Why are they still refugees? It's been seventy years ago? I mean none of the millions of Christian refugees of the last century would be considered refugees after ten years, so what goes?

Why don't they leave and go to another Arab country? They are Arabs aren't they?

Hmmm! Are the Jews asking for ransom?

I wonder why?

Why is it humiliating? To me it would be burdensome not humiliating.

It must be costing the Israelis a lot, but then again they don't believe in the death penalty.

Don't complain, after all the whole Near and Middle East is Christian occupied land.

What's an eye specific rubber bullet?

What's an abortion efficient infant killing tear gas?

Hmmm! What happened to all the Christians in Anatolia and Middle East?

We call it reform school

What did the kid do?

Aha! So before the Muslim occupation, the Christians in Anatolia and Middle East didn't live in towns. Interesting!

I thought the two hundred fifty thousand Palestinians left on their own?

I guess they preferred apartments.

I guess the Arab controlled General Assembly has it against them.

I guess we have it against the Arabs.

Oh I thought it was communist China?

Maybe they should have the death penalty?

What is Micrnesia?

Hmmm! I think you can include the U.S. in that, or for that matter Russia, China, etc., etc., depending on how far back you go.

Boy they're thirsty.

Did they plant them?

Better than war.

Are they using Jewish kids or Palestinian kids? I know the Palestinians use their own kids for propaganda purposes.

Oh so It's illigal in the Islamic countries? Interesting!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1682640.stm

http://www.truthistreason.net/un-co...lating-geneva-convention-during-flotilla-raid

Yet more?


The Human Rights Council has adopted more resolutions condemning Israel than it has all other states combined.

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...olations-of-u-n-security-council-resolutions/[/QUOTE]

 

Israel is the only country on Earth that imprisons kids for political reasons.

We call it reform school


Do you(we?).

Well, that says everything about you(we), then.

The rest of what you wrote was just more racist BS.

Ta ta...

 

You fail to provide proof of your racist narrow minded anti Jewish ravings and when someone calls you on it you call them racist. People like you should be banned.

 

Do you have anything to say about 'Ahmadinejad: World forces must strive to annihilate Israel'?

Or are you just trolling again?

That's what should be banned, sonny jim..

 

You do know that Israel is continuing its theft of Palestinian land, and building illegal settlements for the accommodation of its own citizens on said land.

'48 (Israel); '56 (Israel, France, and the UK) '67 (Israel); '73 (the Arabs, as Israel was not interested in negotiations and returning the land it captured in '67); '82 (Israel); 2006 (Hezbollah).

Ask the UN.

Yes, they are Arabs, but Palestinian Arabs. The same way there are Americans whom are Texans and Europeans who are French. It's their home, why should they leave? Because immigrants from Europe decided to make it their home, and that the vast majority of Palestinians are Muslim?

Do you wonder why the Palestinians are resisting Israel in the first place?

How would you know, you don't live there. You don't find Palestinian women having to give birth at checkpoints humiliating? If a foreign force invaded your country and forced your people to have to go through checkpoints and be stripped-searched humiliating?

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2012/gapal1234.doc.htm

You don't find the above humiliating?

No, they just believe in land theft, the use of phosphorus bombs in civilian areas, and other violations of human rights, like the following example:

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=42527&Cr=palestin&Cr1=

But hey, they don't believe in the death penalty!

I think if the vast majority of Palestinians were Christians, you would be decrying Israel's policies incessantly. Either that, or you're totally ignorant of Israel's past and present policies (the latter is true, but both may be the case).

 

Good little Jeannette, playing the Arabs and fake Muslims vs fake Israel just like Jenny did on PRAVDA english forum.

A large portion of the Palestinians are not Arabs, and are basically Christian Israel despite the Islamic window dressing.

Just because they got conquered by Talmudists playing the Islam game, doesn't mean that they did not retain their Christianity inside.

And nowadays the Israelis have made a deal with the Saudis, Qataris, Muslim Brotherhood et al. to take over the whole Middle East and North Africa.

Why else did the US and HATO work so hard to destroy Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and trying to destroy Syria to hand it all over to the Muslim terrorists, but to serve their lover, the Israelis?

 

You must have more energy for this, than I have, Goomba - credit you.

Question.

Is homosexuality not meant to be a sin, in both Christianity and Islam, Judasim too, I would have thought.

I didn't realise until got a PM link, that for it's size, there seems to be a LOT of gays in Israel, is god okay about the promotion of sodomy, on the holiest of lands?

Nor did I realise that there seems to be a massive, and I mean massive, sex slave trade there.

Sounds like a den of filth..

Perhaps the people of Israel should take a look into the 280 brothels in Tel Aviv where girls, many lured from Russia with promises of good jobs are held as virtual prisoners, their passports confiscated and forced to " attend to the needs"of their clients. This is as near to legal slavery as one could get.

http://www.catwinternational.org/factbook/Israel.php

 

You argument about imadinnerjacket only railing against zionists might be more plausible if not for two rather significant positions.

First, he has NEVER called Israel - Israel - he calls it the zionist regime. He does not call it Israel, because he believes by calling it such he gives it some legitimacy. Without legitimacy, calling for the destruction of the zionist reqime is equivalent to calling for the destruction of Israel.

Second, he denies the holocaust and has invited and produced conferences of the most rabid jew haters and revisionist on the planet. One can question cerain aspects or apocryphl stories, but one cannot deny the targeted industrialized mass murders of millions of jews.

Add those two things up, and Imadinnerjacket is calling for the destruction of Israel.

 

Yes, only about half the jews left in 48. Then of the remaining 80,000 only 20,000 are left since the glorious islamic revolution. Wonder why that is jack.

Interestingly the Iranian jews who insist on staying kinda blows your various screes about the loyalty of jews only to fellow jews comletely out of the water. Don't worry, your arguing both sides at different times to denigrate jews is only obvious to everyone with and IQ bigger than your shoe size.

 

Actually that is not the full text of his remarks. He plays the same game as the palestinians - their english language publications and reportage always leave out the best parts. Seems they've learned that anti-semitism and bloodthirst threats play well to the farsi and arabic communities, but not so well to english speaking world.

read what an independent arabic publication has to say about his comments.
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/ahmadinejad-jerusalem-key-worlds-problems

 

If he hated Jews, why are Iranian Jews happy to be Iranian, and practice their faith, no problem?

I don't think he hates 'Jews', at all.

He may hate Zionists, Jew or otherwise.

Big deal.

There is a lot to dislike.

Listen to the Iranian leader speak here, to a (totally dumb sounding and looking man, called Brian Williams MSNBC anchor).

What there do you have an issue with, because I really cannot find anything wrong in what he says.

[video=youtube;ykd-syzZ4ZY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykd-syzZ4ZY[/video]

 

I am not going to respond to you any more, because I am sick of your insults.

You just cannot write something, without one, can you.

I don't have time for it.

Bye...

 

thst of course is not true jack, there are any number of other countries that have and do imprison children.

They are imprisoned for crimes, jack, politically motivated crimes, but crimes nonetheless. Given the culture they grow up in and the education they get, its no surprise that they view the IDF as occupiers and with unmitigated hatred. Of course, this is their perogative, but they are also very very aware that throwing rocks is illegal and punishable by jail time since bail is kinda hard to come by under military courts.

In Canada, children that break the law are sent to reform school. In the occupied territories they are sent to jail.

 

How did Israel start 48?


56 was a UK+France war, they asked Israel to intervene and later to back off, the aggressor was Egypt for nationalizing and closing the canal. you blame us for winning....


In 66-67, PLO attacked from Jordan and Syria, there were many incidents of breaking the cease-fire usually led by the PLO, this escalated and reached its peak when Nasser closed the Straits to Israeli ships (he didnt get the point of 56) and sent his tank divisions to Sinai - then Israel destroyed his planes - the aggression still came from the Arabs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

73 - You think we should award the Arabs by giving back the lands of 67 just to get to the negotiation table? or was is just for a cease fire agrrement?, we value our soldiers lives too, very much actually and more than most countries I think, they didnt sacrafice it for Arab honor........, if they want "business" they needed to give a peace treaty and reacognize the state right to exist - thus ending any "right" or claim to wage war against us in the future.

We are NOT apologizing for wining m8, the defeated will not gain an UPPER hand just by continuous failed aggression acts, the only thing that is more valuable than land is peace....., we are willing to make peace for the status of an EQUAL state to that of any other in the middle east - not less. give that pledge in the start on the negotiation that we'll talk about how much.

73 war started because of Arab honor.


82 started after more than 200 attacks made by the PLO on Israel from the Lebanon border



Sticking to a view as who's foot crossed the border first to recognize aggression is just part of the picture and by no mean the "truth", that would be like accusing the US for aggression against the Nazis in Normandy.

 

lol, why?


because he's right??? that will be at least the 10th time you're racist views got busted and you remain with nothing to say....., except "you don't have time for it"!


you want ppl to listen to you? then know when to back of for an idea that has no basis in reality!! chum.

 

let this thing run thru the internet.

i opened a thread in another site, with the title from jpost, without ahm..'s name.

I want people to see how the biggots stir up their own demise.


ie.... self chosen..........................ha!



you all know who i am, and i hate the bigots!

 

When Romney or whoever attacks Iran, here's something to think about:
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1604.htm

"Iran’s successful test-firing of their fourth generation indigenously-made Fateh 110 precision missile earlier today confirms that this Middle Eastern nation on the brink of total war with the West has achieved the ability to detonate at high altitude, and with great range, a much feared EPFCG weapon."

"former CIA Director R. James Woolsey, conducted a forum yesterday called “The Electronic Armageddon” where they predicted that within 12 to 18 months following such an attack 90% of Americans would be dead."

But then most the US war crazies are either rich enough to escape or imagine that Jesus is going to take them up in a cloud to watch on TV everyone else dieing.

Just think, anyone who hates the USA could do the same and blame it on Iran.

 

By declaring unilateral independence (thus violating resolution 181). Also, the Zionists were ethnically cleansing Palestinians before the war had even started.

The war was planned by the three powers; Israel was to attack first, and the two European nations were to call for a halt of hostilities; they would then claim Egyptian control of the Suez was too dangerous, and would then intervene to take control of it. However the US told all three to 'back off' in the end. The Egyptians had every right to nationalize the canal; the two European powers were upset because such a move would harm their strategical interests in the Middle East.

There were also violations of the ceasefire by Israel. General Moshe Dayan even claimed that 80% of the border incidents with Syria was started by Israel. Do you think the closure of the Straits to Israeli ships justifies the war (the international community at the time, including the US, didn't think so)? If so, why? Lastly; yes, Nasser sent troops to the Sinai; he did so beforehand (albeit far less conspicuously). Both US and Israeli officials knew the Arabs would be pulverized by Israel if they were to invade. Perhaps this is why Israel was itching for a war, and told sensualist lies about what was happening on the ground, like the following example shows (they are the words of former Israeli foreign minister, Abba Eban):

The following passage (it can be corroborated with others) shows this was not the case whatsoever.

http://books.google.com/books?id=y7...m kippur sadat political breakthrough&f=false

Israel invaded Lebanon after the assassination attempt on the Israeli ambassador to Britain. The PLO was in no way responsible for the assassination attempt. What followed was the siege of Beirut, the Sabra and Shatila incident, etc.... I'm going to have to research your claim about these 200 border incidents, and will reply to you later.

 

Who I choose to place on ignore is up to me.

Now, do you have anything to add to the topic, or is this yet more trolling.

Again.

Have you found me that 'infamous girl that was all over the Israeli media' yet?

I asked you three weeks ago.

We can go over that one again.