AIDS is rife in the Black community

disagree eugenics in this case works planned parenthood wanted AIDS parents the choice to abort an AIDS baby instead of having it come alive with a terminal illness in sufferage all its life

if they don't want to procreate or want their kids to have superior traits that make them less vulnerable to diseases and have higher intellect there is nothing wrong with the application of eugenics

 

The first example - AIDS parents - isn't eugenics. Eugenics is focused on genetic manipulation, not disease control. Now if planned parenthood was focused on eliminating people who are of low intelligence or of a specific race, then it would be a eugenic practice.

As for the second example, it all depends on who the "they" you are talking about is. Eugenics is focused on the control of the genetics of a race. If parents make these choices, it isn't eugenics. If it is a government or some other agency making these decisions for other people, then it is eugenics, and a theft of personal rights.

 

disagree eugenics in this case works planned parenthood wanted AIDS parents the choice to abort an AIDS baby instead of procreating and having it come alive with a terminal illness in sufferage all its life

unless it is used how hitler expected it then would agree

 

Preventing AIDS isn't genetic manipulation. It isn't eliminating procreation based on controlling the gene pool. It isn't eugenics.

It is simply controlling the spread of a disease. If AIDS was a genetic disorder, then preventing people who had it or are carriers from reproducing would be eugenics. But it is an acquired disease so preventing its spread doesn't fall in eugenics.

 

So we agree if eugenics were used to prevent people who had AIDS from reproducing would be a good use of eugenics?

Its saving a future child from a life of sufferage

 

That isn't eugenics.

That is like saying we all agree that Sprite is the best kind of beer.

To be eugenics it has to be:

1: focused on the human gene pool
2: centrally planned and controlled

AIDS prevention doesn't meet #1.

 

And you may want to look up the definition of "sufferage". I don't think it means what you think it means.

 

Dat's why Uncle Ferd don't do the nasty with the black womens...

... he don't want it to shrivel up...

... an' drop off.

 

You obviously have never been to a medical or public health conference. I personally have never heard a reputable medical professional "discount the facts." Please list for me the medical textbooks that are "discounting the facts."

Furthermore your ham fisted attempt at analyzing the epidemiology of HIV seems pretty racist to me. There are numerous factors for the incidence and prevalence of HIV in various communities and a bunch of black heterosexuals sleeping around and raping people is not the only sole. Why you only chose to focus on this I don't know. We can only speculate.

 

Your paranoid delusions are not a justification for this disturbing thread.

I don't know what medical or public health conferences you go to but I have never been to one where any pertinent data is "selectively discounted." Now I will say racist (*)(*)(*)(*) bag Stormfront literature is frowned upon.

Also I have never seen people who are truely interested in solving medical problems play the blame game. So this thread pretty much has no credibility.

 

Nope.

Anti-bodies =/= immunity. They are an immune system response, however that does not make you immune,.

I am listening to that now.. .

 

Granny wonderin' what dey gonna do when it comes here?

Drug-resistant HIV 'on increase' in sub-Saharan Africa
22 July 2012 - Monitoring of patients helps in detecting drug resistance

 

a little joke, I couldn't resist...

 

AFTER AIDS

Let us explain what situation we recognize as «after AIDS.»

1. HIV is only one of the representatives of lentiviruses, causing extensive epidemic processes in the XX century in populations of people and domestic animals. Competition is also possible between representatives of this group of viruses for the territory of its habitation, as a result of which only the most adapted form remains in this ecological niche (in evolution biology this process is called the search for the optimal phenotype [19]). In addition, competition is possible between retroviruses and other mobile «inhabitants» of primate chromosomes. It is considered that approximately 0.1% of their genome consists of virus-like sequences [47].

2. The spread of AIDS, leukoses, and serum hepatitis, and the wide use in clinical practice of cytostatics and immunodepressants leads to the gradual decrease in immune protection in millions of representatives of the Homo sapiens species, living densely, and creates conditions for the penetration and then its «population» with other microorganisms, which will have the indications of an infectious process. In addition, the selection and formation of epidemic variants among microorganisms, not considered earlier as such, is significantly facilitated under these conditions. Therefore, upon attainment by the immunodeficient populations of a certain threshold level or their merging into one quite large (global?) population the formation of epidemics is very possible, caused by «overcome»and «controlled» microorganisms, their closely related forms, and also pathogens, extremely unexpected for health services of developed countries.

3. Agents of immunoprophylaxis and antibiotic and chemotherapy, widely used in the XX century, are important components of global selective pressure on parasite microorganisms. Achieving (in a short perspective)victories over individual infectious diseases, they simultaneously create conditions for the evolution selection of species, becoming parasites under new conditions. The possibilities of technologies, used for the further improvement of such agents, are not unlimited and will unavoidably be exhausted. The creation in their framework of new therapeutic and prophylactic preparations, making it possible to restrain the development of epidemic processes launched by them, will become impossible as a result.

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However, the high level of HIV morbidity of the population to the south of the Sahara made it possible for R. Anderson and R. Mei to propose that HIV has existed there for a very long time [28]. From results of the analysis of the molecular structure of the virus they estimate this period 100–200 years and more [28]. But why did the HIV pandemic not occur earlier, e.g., in the time when slavers transported millions of people from Africa? Being given this problem, we unavoidably come to the hypothesis that some powerful factor existed, hindering the spread of HIV for a very long historical period. What promoted the acceleration of mutations and spread of the virus in the 1950s, particularly in the 1960—70 s of the XX century?

The beginning of both processes with time clearly coincides with other phenomena, namely with the sharp decrease in the incidence of cases of smallpox in the population of a region [4]. In contrast to the spread of smallpox and HIV in Northern Africa, Europe, and on the American continent, these diseases were not endemic in countries south of the Sahara, but were endemic [28,56]. The population of namely those countries, where now HIV is universally widespread [28], was infected until the start of the 1950s with the smallpox virus to a significantly greater degree than in other regions of Africa [4,56]. Under these conditions people, infected with AIDS, could not exist very long. The endemic smallpox virus broke the chain, along which HIV, endemic in a given region, spread. As a result HIV did not have the possibility to evolve, and its variants, preserved in more ancient hominids, in no way appeared in people on the background of other mass infections.

Antivariolous immunization, long carried out by the scarification method in regions, endemic with respect to both pathogens, and the subsequent decrease in the number of cases of smallpox in the population made possible not only the prolonging of the life of people, ill with AIDS, but also increased the layers of the population, infected with HIV. While the Homo sapiens species earlier had been for HIV nothing more than an outer segment of the habitation zone of retroviruses of other primates, it now became a new ecological niche for it. The absence of selective pressure on the pathogen with a constant expansion of its zone as a result of an increase in the number of the human population in the endemic region, and also the expulsion in developed countries with the use of antibiotic (chemo)therapy of other possible HIV competitors — pathogens of fast infections, favored the selection of quasiforms of the virus, causing the AIDS pandemic at the end of the XX century

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There is a theory that AIDS may have been transmitted to humans through a public vaccination program in Africa that used monkey tissue as the source of antibodies from another virus. The vaccine could have been unknowingly contaminated with AIDS.
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