All air defense systems on alert amid Iran attack fears — general

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  1. Iranian Monitor

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    Israel has been in a frenzy of sorts, anticipating possible Iranian retaliation for their (foiled) attempt to assassinate Iran's Quds force commander, General Soleimani last month (if it has succeeded, dozens of civilians would have also been killed), as well as because of their role in hitting an Iranian tanker in the Red Sea (an attack which caused minor damage, but for which Iran pointed the finger of blame most directly at Israel even if it also alluded to the Saudis having a role). All of that of course came after a period of largely unsuccessful Israeli attacks against so-called "pro Iranian targets" in Syria and even Iraq. (I say largely unsuccessful, since no one -- not even the Israelis -- can claim any lasting or discernible impact from those strikes on Iran's ability to support troops on what Israel now claims is a 2nd front against it which has been built near the Golan or on Iran's presence in Syria or much of anything else).

    Iran has plenty of reasons to hit Israel and I wouldn't be surprised to wake up one day to learn some Israel targets had been hit. But in the meantime, seeing Israel acting as paranoid and in such a frenzy is itself rather telling. This despite the fact that the Israelis know that Iran will need to consider and calculate a lot of different things on the geopolitical chessboard, including possible US reaction (not just military, which Iran can probably deter, but successfully bringing the Europeans and others more actively on board of its anti-Iran posture) if it does strike Israel.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/air-defense-batteries-being-put-on-alert-amid-iranian-attack-fears/
    All air defense systems on alert amid Iran attack fears — general

    Air Force chief says challenge of intercepting missiles becoming more complicated, days after Netanyahu accused Iran of seeking to target Israel with cruise missiles from Yemen

     
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    Iran would be better off to IGNORE Israel.. Bibi uses the "existential threat" from Iran to prop up Israeli fear and nationalism.

    Israel isn't going to attack Iran.
     
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    Iran was basically trying to "ignore" Israel for a long time and that was only making things worse.

    Iran will have to take some measure against the Israelis. Although it is complicated, since the US has been rushing all sorts of officials recently to assure them of full US backing in case of any war with Iran and to promise the US focus on Iran remains unabated, some form of reprisal by Iran will not surprise me at all.
     
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    That would be a shame. Iran needs to rejoin the international community, settle down and prosper.

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    Iran has no immediate reason to react to Israeli provocations.

    It wouldn't surprise me if it were eventually exposed that the Saudi attacks were a false flag attack by Israel which is a very good reason why the USA didn't react against Iran.

    A wider gulf war would send the economies of Gulf states into a downward spiral as expats left the region. The UAE economy would collapse as the demand for apartments fell to zero in a buyer's market. The UAE would never recover from an economic recession caused by a Gulf war and high rise apartment complexes would become ghost residences.
     
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    False flag is a dopey conspiracy. Saudis don't tear up their investments. Look at their track record the past 70 years.
     
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    Iran has plenty of reasons, especially the foiled attempt to assassinate General Soleimani since it would have also left many Iranian civilians dead.

    The reason the US didn't react has nothing to do with that. And the attack wasn't a 'false flag' by Israel. The purpose of a 'false flag' is to create a pretext to attack, not to create a pretext to look impotent. Besides, the Yemeni Houthis came out in real time and took credit for the attack -- and they wouldn't have taken such a credit so quickly if they didn't know what had happened. Indeed, if you read carefully, you will see how everyone now is beginning to concede the truth implicitly if not explicitly: that attack was indeed launched by the Houthis from Yemen. No evidence it was launched from Iran (certainly none it was launched from Israel). The missiles and drones are equipment that I can recognize. And since the Israelis are now fretting over an attack against them even from Yemen (Israel being much farther away from Yemen than Saudi Arabia's oil facilities), you can be sure that the pretext that Yemen's cruise missiles (modeled after Iran's Soumar missile, with sufficient range to have hit the Saudi faciliites) wouldn't have the range was simply a tale that was being spun to pin the attack directly on Iran. To do so in order to rally the Europeans to join the US in its anti-Iran policies.
    True, but more than that, it would send the global economy in a downward spiral too. Which is one of the reasons the US/Saudi Arabia, UAE and others won't be trying to pick up a fight with Iran.
     
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    Does the Iranian government encourage tolerance among its citizens for Shia and Sunni alike?

    I know the USA can't be too critical since we have Trump in office and shooting off his mouth every day of the week.
     
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    There isn't any interest in Iran's government to stoke sectarian issues. None. But that doesn't mean any group in Iran will have a license to act against state security either.
     
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    I mean does the Iranian government try to encourage tolerance and understanding within its population?
     
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    Yes. All the time.
     
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    Good.. That's encouraging.. But, here in America we have this moron fanning the flames of intolerance and fear of Mexicans, Muslims and Foreigners in general. Trump is just as stupid as any radical Mullah or Imam.
     
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    Supporting Hamas and terrorist fighters in Syria is NOT ignoring Israel...
     
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    This is a simple issue.
    Israel are the good guys
    Iran is the bad guys.

    Where was this Iranian "general?"

    Israel had nothing to do the attack on the tanker, probably did it yourselves to frsme Israel.

    If Israel had done it they wouldn't hide the fact and the ship would be unrecognizable chunks of metal. It was an ameture job.
     
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    And no one knows this better than the Iranians, or rather the Iranian leadership

    Everytime the Iranian people get upset at seeing their women executed for not wearing tents or noting that they don't have enough to eat while their ayatollahs cavort with imported prostitutes and dine on french cooked cracked crab the imams call another "alert" because either Israel or America is coming to get them. The thing that gets to me is how slavishly both we and Israel will go along with this, and move all our ships into the Gulf or even, in the Israeli case. actually drop a bomb or two in some insignificant area and kill another insignificant Iranian. Aren't those poor backward Iranians funny to be so easily flummoxed by their government this way.
     
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    We agree on something, amazing:)
    However where our ships are in international waters is none of Iran's business.
    We should have taken out the Iranian leadership the moment we got our hostages back.
     
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    False flags are very old and legitimate tools in military strategy and tactics. Wake up Margot.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
     
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    I am well aware of false flags. OBL didn't have kidney disease. He was killed in Pakistan.
     
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    I love how you cons do diplomacy.

    How are we doing against godless communism in Vietnam?
     
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    No.. Israel is NOT the good guys.. They have a long, bloody history of aggression.. Nationalism is a VERY sick way to manipulate your citizenry.. I hope you remember that.
     
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    Marfan's is not kidney disease madam, but OBL did require kidney dialysis according to many sources years ago.

    If you are actually interested in helicopter tail rotor aerodynamics, please send me a PM.
     
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    Great! Would have been better if they wouldn't have fought against us.
     
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    And we'd still be fighting there now.

    The Iranians have long memories. They still remember when we overthrew the popularly elected Mossa Degh in 1954 for wanting to keep their Oil money and wanting to put in a government very much like Sweden's is today (Think on that for a minute, a Sweden in the Middle East today instead of the theocratic cancer that is there now,... ah well, but we made the world safe for British Petroleum, for a decade)
     
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    They didn't, Ho Chi Minh wanted to ally with America just after WWII, ( He greatly admired Abraham Lincoln) We went with the French Occupying Army, and later on threw in with a guy who said Adolf Hitler had done nothing wrong. 50,000 Americans would still be alive if we had decided to listen to our own real history instead of Murican Conservatism.
     
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    Vietnam was a mess because of liberal politics not conservative diplomacy.
     
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