Americans at World Health Organization transmitted real-time information about coronavirus to Trump

More than a dozen U.S. researchers, physicians and public health experts, many of them from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, were working full time at the Geneva headquarters of the World Health Organization as the novel coronavirus emerged late last year and transmitted real-time information about its discovery and spread in China to the Trump administration, according to U.S. and international officials.

A number of CDC staff members are regularly detailed to work at the WHO in Geneva as part of a rotation that has operated for years. Senior Trump-appointed health officials also consulted regularly at the highest levels with the WHO as the crisis unfolded, the officials said.
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In a statement provided to The Washington Post after online publication of this article, Caitlin B. Oakley, a spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services, confirmed that in January, HHS had 17 staff members, including 16 from the CDC, at the WHO, “working on a variety of programs, including covid-19 and Ebola.” She emphasized that the staff members were not “decision-makers.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...1c77fa-818c-11ea-9040-68981f488eed_story.html (Paywall)
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So explain this. If we had people from the CDC inside the WHO, informing the President* and reporting what the WHO knew about this epidemic since last year.... why is Trump now blaming the WHO for "misinformation"?

Now.... there is no way that Trump didn't have even more real-time information from intelligence agents in China. But this looks like evidence that Trump is looking for a scapegoat for his incompetence.

 

Impeach, impeach, impeach.

 

You understand the WHO was reporting that it wasn’t transmissible between humans back then? And tell me this? If Trump said in January we have to shut down all travel from EVERY COUNTRY and everyone needs to quarantine back in early January, when there were no reported cases in the country and there was little data it even spread out of China, what wouod you have called Trump?

Does it rhyme with Bitler. Or maybe Waysist? Or how about cwazy?

All this confirms is pulling all funding from WHO until we root out whoever is being paid by China, and it can’t happen soon enough.

Also please show the documents informing Trump and ONLY Trump what COVID19 was before the rest of the world knew?

 

Golem,
I'm not suggesting that you are....but many of your posts seem to support the CCP.

It's baffling how some who claim to be American, see China as "superior" to the USA.
You seem to make an awful lot of anti-American / Pro-Chinese posts.
Please answer Pred's questions above (if you have a leg to stand on).

 

on Jan 20, it was proven and announced of human to human transmission, i know this cause i was read the news back then, so no way Trump wouldn't know. on Jan 23 china lockdown 11 million ppl. Jan 22, US had its 1st Case, in the subsequence weeks and months Trump downplay it as FLU. Those are the fact go look it up.
Also Fact US Pay MUCH more funding to WHO compare to China, and We also have many more Dr. in WHO than China. So not sure how WHO can be in China pocket, instead US pocket. internet is a wonderful thing, so easy to find out facts, too bad Trumpster prefer living in a Trump Dream. Its simple Trump try to shift blame from Him to WHO, china, Lib and any other countries, just like he always does. its always every one else fault, except him.

 

They were reporting what they knew. Trump alleges that they "conspired" with China to hide information from our government. That has now been proven to be impossible given that our people were right there with them.

The allegation by Trump was not believable anyway. As the U.S. does have the most efficient intelligence agencies in the world. And if China were hiding something, Trump would have been informed.

Same as I call him now: an idiot! Why cancel travel from every country?

I don't think "idiot" rhymes with any of those.

I never expected mere facts to change your mind. I know you'll praise Trump even if he stands in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoots somebody.

I have no idea what you're talking about. If you believe Trump he was the last to know.

 

Quote a single "pro-Chinese" or "anti-American" statement I have made, or retract.

And if you have any points to make, you make them. I don't think any posters here needs a cheerleader. Start with the quote requested above.

 

"From intelligence agents in China." The intelligence is only as good as you can get it. There are Chinese citizens who were kept in the dark about COVID-19. So I'm not in anyway blaming or criticizing our men and women on the ground in China/WHO, but the information they got unfortunately naturally would be faulty, such as the Chinese Citizens are now demanding transparency from their government.

You might see a new Chinese uprising and the end of the CCP rule in China.

 

You're not understanding. They didn't "get" any information. They were producing it and transmitting it to Trump in real time since December of last year. They were working on COVID-19 since, at least, January. Guess when Trump first alerted the citizens of the United States so we could start preparing.... January? No! February... Nope! Mach? .... It was March 18!!!

How can you call that anything other than utter incompetence?

Good for them for getting rid of their dictators. Hopefully we will follow their example and get rid of our dictator this year too. Then History books won't have to describe 2020 as a complete waste...

 

Why cancel travel to every country? Why not? We had no idea where it could be? Trump was supposed to do more in January. He was supposed to pull data out of his azz. WHO was reporting lies. It’s documented. They were covering up for China. If they were doing their job they would have reported that China was lying. Have they condemned them yet?

I’ll ask again. What exactly should Have been done? Everything Trump knew major members of Congress knew. Pelosi was telling people to party in The streets. Biden said he wouldn’t have banned any travel. And other Dems and the MSM were calling Trump racist.

Monday morning QBing is pointless. Blaming this on 1 man is ignorant and unintelligent. Your partisan hate is poisonous and irrational and quite pathetic.

 

Your OP in this thread seems to discredit our President with certain failures to act upon information supposedly provided by the World Health organization.
MANY suggest that the WHO favors China, and I agree with that. You obviously favor the WHO version vs the possibility that Mr. Trump did not actually ignore any important information.
Instead, you seem to want to vigorously discredit Mr. Trump, America's current President. I find that anti-American in general.

So in this thread, you asserted that it was completely our President's fault for not utilizing certain information concerning COVID-19. You have not proven it. instead it seems to be what you want to believe.
Others have provided a rebuttal to your assertion

In all, you repeatedly write to fault Mr. Trump, regardless. This is a recurring theme. I could not find examples of your PRAISE for Mr. Trump even though it is absurd to imply
that everything he has done is not good for America or faulted. That would be a childish insinuation, yet you made it in this thread and do so consistently in others.
It is well known that many Obama/Leftist operatives are still working in various organizations such as the CDC and the others you mentioned and it is logical and safe to assume many work against Mr. Trump.
In fact, given what we have seen since he took office, it would take a fool to suggest they don't work against him constantly.
It is the primary reason he has had to fire so many individuals.

Perhaps I overstated your direct support of China, and for that I apologize. However, constantly berating the US President for emotional, unfounded reasons is in my opinion, anti-American.

Also it is your claim that the US President should be aware of all actions taking place in China is astonishingly naive. You said that in Post #6.
It is FAR more difficult to gather intel in a hard line dictatorship utilizing all kinds of electronic surveillance on the population than it is in a free society. That goes in the "absurd garbage" bin.

Last of all, you do not tell me how to form my posts or what the content will be. That is for me to decide. Thank you. Post #7

 

Well said.

 

I agree with the other folks. You people should impeach Trump. It worked so well last time. You should show him who's boss.

 

Next, the Left will start telling us that Facebook also warned Trump long ago.
Apparently, Facebook supports China's position as well.
Seems Twitter and FB have both come out as China-centric.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/new-f...lts-in-advancing-beijings-agenda_3318330.html

 

Trump has never admitted to a single fault in his entire life. Why should this be any different?

He never accepts blame for his decisions and always points those little sausage fingers at everyone around at the time.

"I don't take responsibility at all." -- Donald Trump

 

Without jumping into the middle of a nice debate here, I would just like to point out that there is no greater American activity than to criticize leadership, especially the president it's probably the most American thing we do. It is our duty as American citizens to shine spotlights on corruption and incompetence, and to hold the powerful to the truth.

 

Uhmm.... because that would that would hurt people unnecessarily.

Huh? Of course we did. It was in China. And then it was in Phillipines, I think. And then Italy and other countries. We also knew where it was not!

Governing requires abilities. If it were just a matter of ... shutting travel to everywhere... that's easy. A five year old can do that. A real President (like the one we don't have right now) analyzes the situation and makes intelligent decisions.

But dealing with a pandemic is not just about shutting down travel. That's a small part. It's about preparing for it. Starting research early. Giving the information to businesses so they can prepare. And the governors, and hospitals, and.... the people.

Ever heard of intelligence agencies? We spend billions spying on other countries. But assuming he somehow has screwed up our intelligence gathering capabilities like he has screwed up .... just about everything he has touched, he was alerted at the latest on January 18... guess when he first made a public statement acknowledging that it was a real threat? March 18!! Two months later.

Look... there is no way you can excuse the performance of this ... asterisk President*

If we are now relying on WHO to do our intelligence gathering for us, we're in deep crap! Especially now that Trump has removed its funding!

Curious.... that's exactly what I was going to say about those who try to excuse the obvious poor performance of the one person in our country who is responsible for handling international crisis. "Ignorant and unintelligent" you say? Yep! That's sound about right.

 

Well yes, that applies to any OTHER President, particularly the last one before this.

 

It's good to see, after that 8-year hiatus, that dissent is once again the highest form of patriotism.

 

Interesting addendum to this story

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...ed-to-confirm-a-us-representative-for-3-years

So Trump failed to keep the US interest in the WHO, which allowed the Chinese to take over. And then now, blames the WHO for the misleading BS they regurgitated.

Maybe this would be a good time to start reasserting US authority on the world stage? Might help counter China's influence. Isolationism is not the path forward with such bad actors in such prominent positions

 

There is nothing pro-Chinese about pointing out the stupidity of blaming the virus on China, especially with the lack of evidence that we have even today, let alone what we had over a month ago when the blame-China deflection came into being.

It's pro-logic and pro-rationality.

 

The President discredits himself. There is nothing more patriotic than using my 1st A rights to point that out.

On a sidenote, I ask again... why is the President of the United States relying on the W.H.O. for intelligence gathering? What happened to our intelligence agencies? What has he done to them? Did he dismantle them and not told us about it?

QUOTE!

You keep accusing me of making statements an provide no quotes! My demand for quotes is not because I doubt your word, but because, if I said anything to that effect, I said it in a certain context.

Proven what? That Trump didn't do anything about COVID-19? Completely the contrary. He did do something. He minimized the threat. So he made the problem worse.

Thank you for clarifying the China comment. As for the rest, not only I, but many have show plenty of evidence on this forum showing this President's* botched response to the coronavirus. Do you need me to quote all the times he minimized the threat? Do you want me to show how far behind we are in testing, despite his lying again and again about it? Do you want a list of daily lies the President tells people on each and every one of his .... TV campaign rallies disguised as "press briefings"?

Read my sig. I have researched every single word I write here. Which doesn't mean I'm always right. It just means I have made an honest effort to find the facts. If you want to know how my research brought me to a certain conclusion.... quote my exact words without taking them out of context, and then just ... ask

You're repeating the right-wing talking point that the President* of the United States relied on the W.H.O. for intelligence gathering, and you accuse me of being naive?

If the WHO is now our "CIA", then Trump shouldn't stop funding it. Because then we'll really be in a mess.

You come across as an honest poster. And we need more of those on the right. So please try again...

 

No kidding, the WHO objected to Trump's China travel restrictions, as did their Chinese masters.

 

Wow, are you not aware it came from China, like most of these viruses, and that China lied about it's transmission situation, while buying foreign medical supplies which they're now making a profit on, or that early Chinese MD's who tried to tell the truth strangely disappeared?

 

None of which make the virus China's fault. You can fault them for the cover-up, but the cover-up didn't cause the virus nor would not covering it up have stopped it.

But relax, I know some folks need somebody or something to blame stuff on, whether it's rational or not. I don't want to stand in the way of your psychological necessities.