America's sexual deviation & decadence over the line

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  1. ChrisL

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    That's not advertising. That is normal life. Sorry, but homosexuality is NOT normal and neither is being a "transgender" person. While I don't think homosexuality is a mental illness, there is definitely something tweaked in the chemistry when you are sexually attracted to your same sex. That just goes against nature and reproduction. I have no problem with it as long as they aren't pushing propaganda onto kids. Childhood is confusing enough for a lot of kids.

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    And then we wonder why we have teen pregnancies and why our younger generations (teens and 20s) have more STDs than ever before?

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    Why do we have to have gay characters in television shows or movies for children? You want to teach tolerance, there are other ways to do that, I'm sure.
     
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    I'm just going to have to dismiss your argument completely since you as others have fall back on the fallacy of attacking the messenger and rely primarily on attacking me by calling me homophobic which there is no such thing to begin with.
     
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    it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
     
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    Normal is a totally meaningless term. It only means how common or prevalent something is and has no value beyond that.

    Your hypocrisy is showing. You can't say something is not advertising for Heteros and them turn right around and call it advertising when gays do it. It's either advertising or it isn't. Stop being a hypocrite and have a standard.

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    Why do we have Hetero characters in tv shows and movies for children?
     
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    Personally, I think sex should be something that remains private, no matter your weird anomalies that you want to "normalize." (I use the term "you" in a generic manner here). I'm pretty sure the making a spectacle out of sexual matters is why we are starting to become the United Freaks of America. SOME things are better off behind closed doors.

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    Because heterosexuality is the normal baseline for human beings. Being gay or transgendered is not, and childhood is confusing enough for kids without exacerbating it with all kinds of weirdness.
     
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    How many times are you going to say you are a hypocrite and want hypocritical standards to be used without actually saying it directly?

    Just say "I want society to hold hypocritical standards".
     
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    You aren't "objective" at all. You and others have an agenda and you are pushing the LGBT agenda. Why else introduce these kinds of things to children? Is there some other reason?

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    There's nothing hypocritical about it. MOST people do not want to see nor hear about gay sex.
     
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    would men even have a problem, if it were not socially acceptable for women to lie to us and let us miss our turn, instead of making like Good helpmeets and helping us meet our endurance and stamina goals.
     
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    What gay sex? If anyone was talking about putting gay sex in kids movies, pro-LGBT people would have a problem with that too.

    What we are talking about are behaviors that no one objects to when Heteros do them on screen, but they suddenly magically become "sexual content" when gays do them.

    That is pure hypocrisy. Either hold a standard equally for everyone or admit to being a hypocrite.
     
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    Because it's CONFUSING to children, that's why.
     
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    Normality is also an indicator of proper functioning and good health. Like a normal blood pressure or normal temperature.
     
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    It's really not that hard to say "some boys like girls and other boys like other boys".

    Are you saying we should ban exposing kids to anything that is confusing?

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    In the context of social issues and psychology however, that is not the case.
     
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    Okay, so now you are a heterophobe, right? You want to take all content out of children's films about moms and dads, no girls can kiss boys ect? I think that most children grow up seeing mom kiss dad. That is not an unusual thing for a small child to see. I know I say my parents kiss all the time. Everyday probably. So it's stupid to say that it is introducing children to "sexual content". This is just a bad analogy, and another bad excuse to behave badly regarding sex and small children.

    I know that gay people want to say that gay is normal. It's not. It's the exception to the rule.

    I know that gay people want to say that gay families are normal. Nope. By definition, they are not the norm. All children have a mother and a father. When a child has their mother and father removed from their life through some tragedy, or divorce, abandonment or because mommy or daddy is gay, that is not the norm. And when it comes to people who are born a man and think they are a woman, or people who are born a woman and think they are a man, that is really, really not the norm. That is a fraction of a fraction. Now we can debate whether this is a mental illness and whether or not gender reassignment surgery is just a medical scam, but this is complete beside the point. The point is, why do we want to introduce sexual subjects to children at all? Try to stay on point.
     
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    People waiting until marriage to have sex is not normal either. It's an extreme exception to the rule. Do you support banning the teaching of that deviancy to children?

    In this context, "the norm" is a totally meaningless term.

    And thank you for admitting to being blatantly hypocritical when it comes to exposing children to sexual content. You are cool with it so long as it is Hetero content.
     
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    Who says?
     
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    You are wrong. A lot of the problems that we see today are a direct result of the "sexual revolution" in the 1960s and 1970s. No, being gay or a transgender is not the normal healthy baseline for human beings. I don't doubt for a second that these things have always existed to an extent, but some things DO belong in the closet. It is NOT healthy, IMO, to expose children to these sexual anomalies.

    What is normal and most healthy is for a child to grow up with a mom and a dad. That is the ideal situation. THAT is what children need to be exposed to and learning about. I do agree with the right wingers that, in a lot of ways, our moving away from that and "accepting" all of this "nontraditional" family and sexual stuff has and is hurting our society. It does nothing for the greater good.

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    Waiting until marriage? Maybe or maybe not. Waiting for someone who you love and care about? Most definitely! That is way more healthy than going around "doing it" with every Tom, Dick and Harry, Cindy, Mary or Betty!
     
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    Did your mom and dad sexually abuse you when they kissed each other? I think your premise is just stupid.

    I understand that "transgendger" is not a proper subject for children's cartoons any more that S&M, B&D, cross-dressing, foot fetishes, food fetishes, and any number of bizarre sexual aberrations or subject matters.
     
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    Because outside of science where things can be quantified mathematically, it's hard to use "proper" or "good" with any kind of objectivity.
     
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    But if two gays kiss in a movie, you would call that sexual abuse for children?

    I think your premise is pure hypocrisy. Either have a uniform standard or don't, but if you don't, at least admit to being a hypocrite.
     
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    Okay, get over it. Children see people kiss all the time. We are talking about transgender characters in movies. This is not something children see all the time.
     
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    You are expecting more than a thousand years of Christofascist oppression and moralism in society to be fixed without difficulty effectively overnight? There are people in the US with serious political influence who want laws passed to have gays executed.

    If you are going to have a standard, apply it evenly and uniformly. If you don't, at least admit to being a hypocrite.
     
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    I got involved in sex at too early an age and became a teen mom, raised a child by myself. I WISH I had had better role models in my life. As an adult and looking at the world as an adult, I now see how important that is. I realize that not every child is going to have good role models, but that is what we should strive for. Families with a mom and a dad are the ideal for all children.

    I used to fight against the idea of the "traditional family" (being a single teen mom, of course it was hard for me to admit to my mistakes), but I do believe that is what is BEST for all kids. Thankfully for me, my son is not gay or a transgender. He has adjusted quite well, but I believe this is a very difficult task to accomplish for a lot of single moms and same sex couples. Children need a healthy balance and a well adjusted life. They do NOT need to be taught about gay love. I've looked at the rise in our suicide rates since times past, and well, it is telling.

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    And those are the people who are extremists on the other side of the coin. THAT is not normal and healthy either. I certainly do not want to harm gay people or transgender people. I just don't think it is healthy for society as a whole in the bigger picture to push these types of issues onto impressionable children.
     
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    Kids don't see talking fish all the time. We should just block Finding Dory entirely, right?
     
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    Sexual deviance can be quantified mathematically, that is how we know it is deviant.
     
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    Why is it so difficult to say "some boys like other boys"?

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    But all that means is that isn't common. It says nothing about good or proper.
     
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