And Gay Marriage Has Actually Hurt Humanity In What Way(s)??

I just wish the rest of the folks here who oppose civil rights for gays and lesbians could be so honest. But they are too aware of how reprehensible their views are to society, so they must use dishonesty and lies to disguise what they really want for certain people.

 

Yet, as indicated by my post.....both involve people feeling their opinions should be used to impact the lives of people they do not, and never will meet or know. Thus I feel it is at least an extremely egotistical position bordering on narcissism.

 

And wanting equality is wrong because?

 

Reasonable version: Not all heterosexuals are bad, but a significantly sizable number of the straight population is unable to comprehend family values in the way that a family-oriented person can comprehend those values. In being unable to comprehend these values, they tend towards hedonism. (Something that is very 'human' but not necessarily matter of ones sexual-orientation.)

Reasonable version: This is particularly true of sexual hedonism. And as far as it concerns homosexuals in this society, many gays have good reason to view their relentless antagonists within the general population with contempt and scorn. Even so, the homosexual agenda tends to encourage reasonable people to accept those who are as human as they are, with the only primary difference being sexual-orientation. That is all becoming more and more evident.

Reasonable version: The proof is right before everyone's eyes: Homosexual people who are married live decent lives and raise healthy children, just as heterosexual families do. Still, those 'newer' or more unfamiliar family structures will take time for more Americans to accept; the evidence so far, has proven that gay marriage is positive for this society overall.

Reasonable version: Certainly, MANY good and decent homosexual people do exist. The general population is becoming increasingly educated and aware that outdated mindsets, close-mindedness, discrimination and homophobia are too guileless and hypocritical to retain as viable social devices. They are realizing that it is most important to distinguish between the character of those who are truly acceptable or unacceptable. Values embedded within a person's character are inextricably a part of them as a person. As such, people need to be socially aware and encouraged to overcome unnecessary and destructive prejudices, especially homophobia. Keeping people in the closet for the sake of those too foolish to recognize and condemn their own BIGOTED "values", should never be the practice of the majority.

 

Great point. I'm always a bit amused by those people who talk about homosexuals, as though they were just dropped onto the Earth, by aliens.

 

What's wrong with imposing morality through laws? Laws against prostitution and drug use enforce morality.

 

Those laws need to go too. They serve no real purpose and do more harm than good.

 

You beat me to it.

 

One involves two consenting adults, gay marriage; one involves a consenting adult, an unborn child, and ends a life, abortion. Very different situations. The arguments for one are not the same arguments for the other, in America if you are a consenting adult you should be able to marry whom ever you want. Wether an unborn child is the property of the mother, or is its own viable being and therefore has rights is for the country as a whole to decide. One involves consenting adults, one does not!

 

And those have worked sooooooooo very well.

Frankly they pretty much show how ridiculous imposing morality through laws is.

 

morality is subjective, and in this case is infringing on peoples basic civil rights.

 

And are just as useful as those you champion...though some drugs are actually detrimental to society.

 

For the very last time....this is YOUR opinion, and should not be allowed to define the opinions of others. You are not God, Government, or landlord....and thus opinion is only that.

 

The only problem here is your bigotry.

Of course you did and do, just lack the integrity to admit it.

You are deluding yourself.

 

Bet everyone knows that it is not viable for a long time.

A single cell can not possibly have rights.

By far it has and it does not want to make abortion illegal even if personally opposed to it.

Consenting adult and that is all that is needed.

 

Just as your statement is your opinion! Until this point in America it has been very unpleasant for gay couples to exist, the times are changing finally. Abortion is and will probably continue to be contentious in America forever! Besides, why is your opinion so much more important or right?

 

It is a single cell for about 30 minutes, not long enough for a woman to know she is pregnant. My views are very much in line with America, i personally oppose it, but understand that its legal and accept it. This does not however stop the debate on this topic, laws change, attitudes change, countries change.

I am not trying to argue that abortion should be illegal, just that the same sex marriage and abortion have two very different arguments.

 

OK fair enough.

 

Amen!!!

 

Considering the fact that MY opinion has no detrimental effect any other citizen of this country....yes, it is right.

 

its detrimental to the unborn baby.

 

Obviously.

Maybe they should consider it.

 

Yes....it is, which does not effect the validity of my reply.

 

Too many. From both sides.

I don't know many gun owners who aren't content.
I find more worrying about guns in peoples' hands, than the opposite.

Still... not sure why that was directed at me.

Guns are a right, and there is no sense fighting against them.

Gays asking how homosexuality affects heterosexuals, which is what these threads constantly do, is completely different.

Derr

 

Because it promotes the devaluation of children. They are just baggage to be thrown into whatever arrangement sex obsessed people are wanting to be equal in the eyes of society and the law. Marriage was about the adults and the children who were inclined to be born accidently and on purpose---and society encouraged a union that would be beneficial for society---and our offspring. Now with the agenda of "equality" for all sexual orientations, children are vulnerable.