Antifa attacks in Portland

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  1. Jimmy79

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    So you're saying that you and your grandfather advocate for the violent suppression of free speech?

    You do realize that one of your heros recently shot up some congressmen because they are Republicans right?
     
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    The problem is that liberals go berzerk when confronted with opinions they dont like

    No matter who the group is thats demonstrating it takes two to have a fight

    Andthe equally weird ANTIFAs have to show up for there to be trouble
     
  3. Phyxius

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    Not my hero, and he was quite justifiably killed for it. I believe that the NRA types would label such a mass shooting as a lone wolf scenario. Or, at least they would if they were politically aligned, or if it were a room full of kids, or 500 concert-goers. Meanwhile, one of YOUR heroes was sentenced to life for using his car to kill a counter-protester, and attempting to kill several dozen others in Charlottesville because they were anti-fascist and anti-racist, and had the gall to be outspoken about it.

    We can do this all day. Meanwhile, YOUR side is the one actually killing people at political protests and rallies. Own it.
     
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    Great, Nancy boy liberals would not protect themselves from attack. Glad you cleared that up.
     
  5. Phyxius

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    Again - bullshit.

    Far-Right Extremists Wanted Blood In Portland’s Streets. Once Again, They Got It.

    It’s not a surprise a conservative writer was bloodied in a street brawl in Portland ― far-right extremists have been freely hosting skirmishes there for years.

    The dangerous, gory aspect of these rallies is a well-known, regular occurrence, and planned in advance by far-right organizers like the Proud Boys. HuffPost reported on the group’s private online planning in May, in which Proud Boys spent months plotting what armor and weapons to bring to maim or kill anti-fascists; which police officers might be sympathetic to their cause; tactics in street fights; and how to assert claims of self-defense if they were to face charges.

    The real common thread between these rallies has always been the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer, semi-regular insurgencies in a city their leaders don’t call home. The only thing that changes is the number of people who show up to protest, and now the extremists are often outnumbered 4-to-1 by throngs of protesters demanding that they leave.

    Leaked Proud Boys Chats Show Members Plotting Violence At Rallies

    The extremist gang claims it’s just a pro-Trump “drinking club.” But chat logs leaked to HuffPost reveal they plan weaponry and tactics months ahead.

    A source with direct knowledge of the exchanges confirmed to HuffPost that the logs were authentic. Swinney also responded to several screenshots. When asked about discussions of violence in the chat logs, he told HuffPost, “They’re warriors. ... Choir boys don’t go up against people like that [anti-fascists]. It takes a person with a certain type of mindset.”

    The logs contained a revolving door of up to 30 Proud Boys and their allies, including militia members and other “patriots,” as Swinney called them. Those named in this story either publicly identify as members of the Proud Boys or affiliated groups, or have been identified as such in national news stories or by the groups’ leaders.

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    What does it matter? Don't you realize what free speech is? Evidently you must think it is OK to violently attack someone who has a different opinion.
     
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    Incorrect. Judge them by their works. There have been fights were the Proud Boys may have even thrown the first punch. Antifa is about violence and that is what they do. What they did, and it was not one bad guy but a large group of them, beating and nearly murdering a quiet, unassuming journalist. They are would be mass murderers. The Proud Boys? Not so much.
     
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    It's the though police at work. A crime is a crime but the thought police want to punish you for what you think.
     
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    I see extremists on both sides looking for trouble

    Do you agree?
     
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    When absolutely everyone who supports, defends, and exercises their constitutional rights is automatically labeled as being a nazi, exactly what alternative is there to be had? Explain such.
     
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    I see right-wingers looking for trouble outside of their home towns and the actual citizens of where they're looking being ready for them. The Proud Incel Boys and Patriot Prayer are not from Portland, or even from Oregon. They went into someone else's home to deliberately stir up sh!t, and sh!t is exactly what they received. I have zero sympathy for the idiots, and zero respect for those who defend and support them.

    There's a reason the KKK and/or Aryan Nation doesn't march or hold rallies in Harlem, yanno.
     
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  12. Phyxius

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    And? I don't see anything in that assertion that is untrue. I'm sure that book would give Benedict Donald and his supporters the drizzles. Probably reads better than their copies of Mein Kampf...
     
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    Portland, along with many of the West Coasts larger cities, needs a political enema.
     
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    Well, it would appear the Proud Boys, Him Too and Patriot Prayer are too weak to deliver it.
     
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    My point that you so missed is any mayor with a backbone can allow the police to quell the violence. That applies to both sides.
     
  16. Phyxius

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    My point is they got EXACTLY what they went to another state to find. If the positions were reversed, you would be saying the same thing.
     
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    I just thought that each side was violent. By saying that the Proud Boys got their asses stomped, this implies that it was one sided.

    Why, if it was only Proud Boys who got their asses stomped? You didn't talk about Antifa getting their asses stomped.
     
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    Yeah, free speech, so passe for the lefties.
     
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    So you side with violent leftists that start the violence. Got it.
     
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    Proud boys didn't attack a Journalist.

    I follow Andy's work so I'm just going to ignore the comments of leftist retards that try and smear him for the ignorant fools they are. Parrot repeated narrative isn't worth my effort.

    This is what they call "Football Hooliganism" in Europe nothing more, both sides out for a rumble under the guise of politics. Basic tribalism at it's best.
     
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    I side with those defending their home town from, what was the phrase the right-wing authoritarians were so fond of? Oh, yeah - outside agitators. The Proud Incel Boys came to a city in another state to start sh!t, and sh!t is exactly what the natives gave 'em. Considering how many times this has happened to them in this very city, one might think they were slow learners. Either way, I have precisely zero f*cks to give them, not that many of them have seen a f*ck in recent history, it would appear. I do have a rat's @ss laying around that one of the cats brought in - would that work?
     
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    Yeah, free speech. Not something the triggered leftists can tolerate. It's not the ones causing the violence that are guilty, it's anything that triggers their violence.
     
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    I have no sympathy for someone who loses a fight they went thousands of miles out of their way - hell crossed a continent - to start. Especially when they've lost the fight multiple times before in the same spot. They're either stupid or looking to create martyrs. So be it - Hallelujah. Their stupidity ain't my concern. If they want to engineer their own deaths, who am I to argue? That's a few less impotent incels to worry about.

    Let me put it another way, and maybe you'll understand: I have exactly as much sympathy for the Proud Boys and their ilk that you do for brown children covered in their own sh!t in cages and for very similar reasons. The difference between us is that unlike you, I recognize the useless impotent incels actually had a choice and the brown kids didn't.
     
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    LOL, comparing left wing violence to the democrat encouraged illegal crossings they want to refuse funding. Priceless.
     
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    I figured it would go right over your head. Thanks for proving me right.
     

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