Anyone Have An Experience With Covid

557 · Feb 13, 2024

MuchAdo said: ↑

The quality of my arguments is that I actually post coherent reasons of why you are posting erroneous things which you have repeatedly been doing. Is posting two similar definitions from the CDC proof that the vaccinations are not vaccinations. No. You haven’t provided anything else. Again, show me research that definitely demonstrates that the covid vaccines don’t fit the definition of a vaccine. Your evidence is not evidence.

You quoted from the Helene Banoun article:

Is this your actual proof that the mRNA vaccines are a form of gene therapy.

From the Abstract:

— vaccines were developed and approved rapidly
— no specific regulations existed at the time they were marketed due the urgency
— now the pandemic emergency has passed, the safety issues associated with the rapid approval should be considered
— Banoun believes the mode of action of the vaccines should classify them as gene therapy products even though they are not considered by regulatory agencies as gene therapy products
— Banoun mentioned some concerns — passage into breast milk, long-term expression, integration into the genome and so forth
— Banoun concluded the abstract with stating further controls should be required for future mRNA vaccines developed outside the context of a pandemic

Do you not understand that this is an opinion piece? Banoun states that there is no ‘scientific justification’ to support the exclusion of vaccine mRNA’s from the strict control rules that should apply for gene products. She’s concerned that there aren’t enough strict safety controls applied to the vaccines. This is not a consensus that mRNA vaccine is a gene therapy. It’s an opinion. You share it with her but are conflating one opinion into absolute truth because it fits your rhetoric.

She asks why the FDA hasn’t ‘really’ evaluated the vaccines unlike the European Medicine Agency (EMA) therefore asking for stricter controls. Note, the EMA does not consider the vaccines to be gene therapy.

So once again, your claim that the mRNA vaccine is a gene therapy falls totally flat just like your statement that covid vaccines aren’t vaccines.

Provide some real actual research — like consensus and research as to why the mRNA vaccines are a gene therapy. You still haven’t shown that the mRNA vaccines aren’t vaccines.

I will continue to respond to misinformation as it arises.
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You are posting misinformation. The current vaccines are gene therapies by accepted definition in science. They are vaccines by definition and by law.

There is no point pretending the vaccines are not gene therapies. They fit the accepted definition we have been using for decades.

Just because a journalist told you something doesn’t make it true. Your sources like the one below are unreliable.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshua...cines-are-not-gene-therapies/?sh=18317097229a

Betamax101 · Feb 14, 2024

The Verb said: ↑

The very title: Pregnant rats received the COVID-19 mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine during gestation
"This study aimed to investigate the gene expression of WNT, brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF) levels, specific cytokines, m-TOR expression, neuropathology, and autism-related neurobehavioral outcomes in a rat model. Pregnant rats received the COVID-19 mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine during gestation."
That's a study, not a review
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Correct, THAT is a study. Tell me though, why have you replied to my statement with a totally different paper! THIS was CLEARLY the review to which I was referring
In a review published on Dec. 26 in Vaccine, researchers found.....

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