AP Sources: US readies sanctions on Iran after missile test

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-sources-us-readies-sanctions-000014275.html?ref=gs

Okay, I'm interested. What grounds are Republicans using for imposing sanctions. With the unanimous Security Council approval of Resolution 2231, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) the sanctions and restrictions on Iran's ballistic missile program imposed by UNSC Resolution 1737 ended.

https://www.un.org/en/sc/repertoire/subsidiary_organs/sanctions_and_other_committees.shtml

I know that Republicans have a hard-on when it comes to Iran but there's no apparent grounds for any sanctions against Iran based upon Iran's ballistic missile program that was only imposed until Iran came into compliance with the Security Council on it's enrichment program. That's been resolved and Iran can't produce the enriched uranium that's required for a nuclear weapon so it's ballistic missiles are worthless as a nuclear weapon delivery system. The US would actually be in violation of the UN Security Council Resolution 2231, that we supported, by imposing the sanctions that were lifted.

It's impossible to imagine what Republicans are thinking but it's obvious that they don't have a functional brain cell between all of them. As Forest Gump said, "Stupid is as stupid does" and the Republican appear ready to commit another really stupid blunder by imposing sanctions without any justification for the sanctions.

The US can build ballistic missiles, France can build ballistic missiles, Brazil can build ballistic missiles, Canada can build ballistic missiles and guess what Republicans, Iran can build ballistic missiles because there's no prohibitions against any of these countries building ballistic missiles.

Republicans keep claiming Americans voted for change last November but I don't think "Stupid" was the change Americans had in mind.

 

We could expect another oil price hike,
Putin will never object, I guess.

 

This doesn't make much sense. Obama like or dislike him. Spent nearly 8 years on a "Deal" with Iran. And now Trump will destroy it in a few days over one military test. It seems an incredible waste of a President's time. As the Iranians will now use this as justification to continue their nuclear policy.

Or was the USA never serious, this was just a game and Obama was the useful idiot?

 

I myself wouldn't use sanctions, but strong language. Obviously the ballistic missile was used to see how far they could take things. As also seen when they captured US troops a few months ago. It's clear to me that Iran isn't our friend, to say the least. And while it's been said that they have so far complied with the deal, the deal has such weak measures in it that I feel reversing the deal wouldn't be too difficult for Iran.

 

Why would one missile test jeopardise 8 years of Obama creating a deal with Iran?

From an outside perspective. The USA can't keep to its word.

 

Obama is not an idiot but, he was a useful puppet.

The Iran issue is pure politics. The whole idea that it was "Obama's deal" is a false narrative - A necessary illusion to keep the citizens of the US believing that the US has more power and influence than it actually does.

The reality is that the relative strength of US global hegemony has been on the decline for quite some time. This is not to say that the US is still not the most powerful member at the table ... we are but, our influence is not nearly as overwhelming as it once was and it will continue to decrease with time.

This how the cycle of rise and fall of military/economic empires has always worked throughout history and we are not going to buck the trend. There are books written decades ago that have predicted every stage of this cycle - not based on some crystal ball. Such predictions are done by looking a what happened to past empires.

It was not just the US at the table with Iran. Britain, Germany, China, Russia and France were also there. In addition to Russia and China, Europe too was pushing to end the sanctions.

The US can sanction Iraq all it wants but, if the rest of the gang does not join in the sanctions are not worth much.

At the end of the day - the "deal" was not Obama's deal to make. The US was merely one of a number of parties to the deal.

Trump can try and make a new deal if he likes. Chances are that the other members will, in a politically astute way, tell him to go pound sand.

 

Thank you for that detailed explanation.

Yes the American bluster is well known in the changing multi polar world of Russia and China.

The sanctions are dead as Russia and China will never agree to it again, they have their own plans for Iran. Which doesn't involve American "deals"

Which may explain further why Trump and the republicans appear desperate to show their strength for something so minor.

 

Cause the deal was 'no balistic missile development'

 

From an outside perspective, we want to keep the country and the world safe. Do you feel safe with Iran testing ballistic missiles? Do you feel safe with North Korea's provocations for example? If we do remember the valid lessons from WW2 is that you counter building powers early, not late.

The nuclear deal, as is, is still ongoing. This is just a reminder to the Iranians that they have other obligations.

 

It makes no sense. Iran is buying weapons far superior to that missile test.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-10-billion-worth-of-tanks-and-jets-in-new-a/

Russia may sell Iran $10 billion worth of tanks and jets in new arms deal

Russia also builds the nuclear reactors in Iran. And China wants business. While America as you say is lost in the past remembering WW2.

(Some of this post for AmericanNationalist. Apologises. Don't sanction me!)

 

In many ways the US has become a paper tiger. For many decades the US was the big unchallengeable bully on the block. This was in part due to military strength but they never had to use it due to overwhelming economic power.

The relative military strength has significantly declined but, more importantly the economic standing is not nearly what it use to be.

Trump the Blowhard could not be a more perfect for this moment. There is a figure of speech for this I am sure.

At a time when the rest o the world is not taking the US as seriously as in the past ... we have a president who is not taken seriously by much of his own party !!

 

No it wasn't.

 

Putin needs oil at over $100 bbl otherwise Muscovy land collapses...and he can't go on any "adventures", claiming vatniks needing protection in neighbors backyard!

 

It would do you good to realize what are ballistic missiles for. The only purpose a nation would need a ballistic missile is to deliver nuclear warhead, there are no other reasons to have one. On the other hand, Iran is not developing nuclear weapons.

Are Iranians stupid or they think, the world is stupid? You tell me.

 

The proposed sanctions are within and do not break the omama iran deal.

 

For domestic producers to continue the ppb needs to be at $70.

 

So, an outsider who just beat both parties and the propaganda of MSM is not being taken seriously by the GOP? He has them shaking it their boots, because of his support and the records in turnout for trump. Trump thinks our military is tattered and plans on building it back up. But don't take trump seriously? The world will not be laughing at trump after he is in office for awhile. Given what trump has done in a short time in office, and what he says he will still do, to not take this guy seriously is in the same ballpark as what just happened with him winning an election that was impossible for him to win.

 

Iran have had ballistic missiles for decades as have all other countries.

It is pure propaganda to keep referencing the words "ballistic missile" as if that means nuclear war, but it appeals to the war mongers

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An arrow fired from a bow is a ballistic missile.

All countries have ballistic missiles

 

Well then. Get back to me when any country is able to mount a nuclear warhead on a ballistic arrow, and deliver it one mile in any direction

 

Oil prices will drop if the US imposes sanctions on Iran.
Iran is a member of OPEC but was exempt from the cuts that the other members made to push the price up. If there are sanctions, that is a loss of income they will pump more to cover that loss and the price will go down. Add to this the trade problems with Mexico, who although not a member of OPEC agreed to cut production, expect to see their production increase to offset the loss of trade with the US. Gas will stay in the $2 to $2.50 range for quite a while.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-02/opec-cuts-oil-production-but-more-work-needed-to-fulfill-deal

 

Yes..any sanctions imposed could mean ramping up output to offset lost revenue...but that would include Iraq, Saudi, and Venezuela which I hear is on precipice of total collapse...

 

Don't need arrows any more, just use a rifle.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a20682/watch-the-smallest-nuclear-explosion-ever/

But hey, that is not so sexy as saying a ballistic missile to the Trump gullibles.

 

The Israeli government claims to not have nuclear weapons, yet they have ballistic missiles. Are they lying and in violation of the NPT?

Saudi Arabia has ballistic missiles and they don't have nuclear weapons.

BTW, have you never heard of chemical weapons? They also get delivered by ballistic missile.

 

For some reason, so many are incapable of comprehending such basic logic.

 

Has Israel ever denied they have nuclear weapons? Have they ever entered into a deal which would require them NOT to develop or own nuclear weapons?