Appeals Court dismisses Mar-A-Lago Special Master

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  1. Overitall

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    Wonderful. Enjoy the rest of your day.
     
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    Will my post was deadly accurate, and, you too! Twixxxx are made fooooor kids....
     
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    That so many of their appointments are for life is a two edged sword. They can be independent, which is the design or they can be very partisan, which is the hope of those who get the opportunity to appoint them. Basically we are stuck with whatever.
     
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    Meaning that if the DOJ has already read and processed a document they should not have, it does no god then for a judge or special master to assert they cannot use that document.
     
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    Did he? Can he?
     
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    The incompetence is in our corrupt doj that doesn’t even try to hide its corruption any more.
     
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    Yes and yes, of course, POTUS is King. :(
     
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    He's getting a lot of love and respect for revealing #Twittergate. He's the hero for non-censoring political opinion. Plus, he's not finished with the deed. The next dump of emails conspiring to suppress factual information about Hunter Biden is coming, I believe, today.
     
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    This post gave me a good, hearty, chuckle!! Thanks.
     
  10. Overitall

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    I'm looking forward to the next dump. I've heard this has gotten the MSM to shut up about Musk. Not a peep about him.
     
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    If you like censorship, I'm truly happy for ya.
     
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    And that's a problem why? In a country where there's a 94% plea rate, we have to acknowledge some things are wrong with the current criminal justice system and among the biggest that's become apparent is the DOJ-Judiciary alliance. If everyone had an independent counsel to review and sequester documents/items which may be evidence and which isn't, that assures equal fairness for all witnesses.

    It's not that the government can't overcome this burden, it's that it doesn't want to.
     
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    How many of Trump's lawyers have been disbarred or sanctioned?
    How many of his motions/lawsuits have been thrown out of the courts?
    I see, so it's the 11th Circuit's 3 republican judges, 2 Trump appointed, 1 Bush appointed who are really the incompetent ones, not counting all the Republican and Trump appointed judges who threw out Trump & allies 2020 election lawsuits.

    There's no pattern here...lol
     
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    No that is the law. This isn't a choice of opinion.
     
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    You didn't even make a small effort to respond to my hypothetical. It involves an opinion which you're allowed to express. Give it a swirl. It won't bite you. :)
     
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    2 Facepalms!

    Judge shopping when you're an ex-president and get the judge that you appointed does not equate to this "equal fairness for all witnesses"" that you supposedly have solutions for.

    Defence attorneys review prosecutor's evidence and visa-versa and the judge rules what can and can not be entered as evidence.
    Don't like it then they can appeal the judges decision.

    So the annual 10's of thousands of drug dealers who had their drugs seized, lab tested as being positive would be entitled to a Special Master, who's supposed to to do just what with the evidence?

    A Special Master for everyone, in the words of Oprah "you get one and you get one"
     
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    Again, irrespective of whether they judge shopped or not I think a special counsel or really, any independent firm reviewing the items seized for proper classification is neither improper nor immoral. I think it's fair to all defendants involved, and I don't think a special counsel/independent law firm is any more corrupt than the DOJ who could plausibly plant false evidence on a criminal defendant for example(and before you sidetrack, I'm not saying that's the case with regards to the Trump incident, he's not making that claim either. I'm just saying that you could clear up even those type of conspiracies with independent review.)
     
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    You don’t see the pattern at all, only the most surface level of analysis.
     
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    Get back to the facts of what took place and is taking place.
    All you do is jump through hoop after hoop landing in a place that does not exist in the reality of what's happened.


    Oh yes he did make that claim..


    DoJ pushes back on Trump's claims it planted evidence at Mar ...
    https://www.theguardian.com › us-news › sep › doj-tru...


    Sep 27, 2022 — Agency files slightly amended list of seized materials and an affidavit that the list reflects what was taken during search.


    Judge spares Trump from having to back up claims of planted ...
    https://www.nbcnews.com › politics › donald-trump › j...


    Sep 29, 2022 — A judge ruled that Donald Trump doesn't have to submit a sworn statement identifying any evidence he believes might have been planted at ...


    Trump Baselessly Suggests F.B.I. Planted Evidence in Mar-a ...
    https://www.nytimes.com › 2022/08/10 › nyregion › trum...


    Aug 10, 2022 — Even as former President Donald J. Trump invoked the Fifth Amendment in a New York inquiry into his business practices, he and his allies ...
     
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    Look at it this way, either way you feel works for me, was a good chuckle regardless. :)
     
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    My feelings have nothing to do with my response. It had more to do with your own feelings. If you like censorship, I can totally understand why you're laughing.
     
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    Your feeling are not a consideration even the straw man you are trying to grasp at is not a consideration either, sorry. I think your earlier post was simply hilarious, so, :applause:.
     
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    Are you being willfully obtuse? He's not making those claims now. Even if I had said 'the claims he once made', the point would still stand: You could literally eliminate such claims, through an independent 3rd party. We are not, right now speaking of the current case. I am speaking of the benefit of an independent counsel, were it granted to all criminal defendants.

    And the main benefit is that it would be impossible to claim falsehood, or deception within the eyes of the independent investigator/reviewer.
     
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    Those declassified documents were never distributed. If they were floating freely around, why would Trump sue to get them back? Biden doesn't have to know specifics. All he has to do is think reclassify all documents at marlagao and boom, it's reclassified.
     
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    No applause necessary.

    Glad that Twitter censors, (#Twittergate), make you feel hilarious. Didn't I already say this above?
     
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