Luca et al. (Handgun waiting periods reduce gun deaths, PNAS) suggests that they do: "Waiting period laws that delay the purchase of firearms by a few days reduce gun homicides by roughly 17%. Our results imply that the 17 states (including the District of Columbia) with waiting periods avoid roughly 750 gun homicides per year as a result of this policy. Expanding the waiting period policy to all other US states would prevent an additional 910 gun homicides per year without imposing any restrictions on who can own a gun". Thoughts?
You'd have to establish cause and effect and not just temporal relationship. After, all most gun homicides are not from weapons purchased legally. Do you have the whole study for perusal? For DC how does that happen because handguns are very difficult to purchase or possess and most gun violence is banger on banger.
In WA you can avoid the waiting period with a CCW. I dont agree with waiting periods... but this seems a very reasonable compromise.
I see the value in them and don't see a major problem in a waiting a few days to pick up a gun. Ive always had to wait around a week to get a gun delivered anyways.
Probably not even then but that's not the data is analyzed. The study shows no cause and effect. That's the bottom line.
In theory I can see your point, but we cannot rely on the 2nd, and then place infringements on urbanites because they tend to commit vastly more crime and kill vastly more people than suburbanites or rural folks...
And making the National maximum speed limit 25 mph would save even more lives without imposing any restrictions on who can go where. Forget that silly waiting period or make it voluntary. I've got stuff to do......
I don't think they actually help prevent any crime. But if there was a 6 day waiting period it would be reasonable.
The key word of the citation is "imply" meaning there is absolutely no hard evidence to support the theory, and demonstrate that it is indeed credible. This is to say nothing of the notion that those who legally own firearms, are the primary cause of firearm-related homicides, rather than those who illegally possess firearms.
Let us say; "a Seven Day waiting period reduces homicides by 20 %" Well, a waiting period that reduces homicides only affects people that do NOT already have guns, X = % of or total amount of first time gun owners, that number would already be low, and the number of homicides among that number would be much lower, maybe 3 - 5 % aggregate total, not 17 % Since 3- 15 % of the populace commits 95 % of Crime Nationwide. Waiting periods have no significant impact or significant effect on crime.
Not "never", but certainly less likely to do so. Humans aren't meant to live in high density populations and it creates mental issues. Example: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2011/jun/22/city-living-afffects-brain The brains of people living in cities operate differently from those in rural areas, according to a brain-scanning study. Scientists found that two regions, involved in the regulation of emotion and anxiety, become overactive in city-dwellers when they are stressed and argue that the differences could account for the increased rates of mental health problems seen in urban areas. Previous research has shown that people living in cities have a 21% increased risk of anxiety disorders and a 39% increased risk of mood disorders. In addition, the incidence of schizophrenia is twice as high in those born and brought up in cities. Kinda gives weight to the comment that "city people are crazy", eh?
While I agree about concerns regarding infringement of Constitutional rights, I also support local government. Even though I disagree on gun bans, a city imposing a 3-7 day waiting period isn't denying rights, it's just delaying exercise of rights.
There is little evidence that it is effective to have a waiting period. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...dence-waiting-period-handgun-purchases-reduc/
Effective at reducing murders? Agreed. Suicide? No. From your link: "A study done by one researcher from Georgetown University and one from Duke University that was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 2000 examined the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, a 1994 federal law that established a nationwide waiting period and background check for handgun sales. (The waiting period provision was later removed.) The study concluded that the law’s waiting period was associated with reductions in the firearm suicide rate for people age 55 and older, but not associated with reductions in homicide rates or overall suicide rates. Other research has found that people who buy handguns are at a higher risk of committing suicide during the first week after the purchase. For example, an article published in 2000 by members of the Firearm Injury Center at the Medical College of Wisconsin said a Wisconsin study found a "sharp increase" in the risk of suicide within one week of a gun purchase." That said, I'd push to have any "gun waiting period" legislation tied specifically, and only, to better mental health care.
Only for preventing gun suicides....not suicides. Someone can always pull a "Robin Williams", a "Sylvia Plath" or a "Evelyn McHale". Do you know how many people commit suicide each year? Over 44,000/year. This is why, if the anti-gun Left really gave a rat's ass about "saving lives", they'd focus on better mental health, not gun control. https://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicides
Yes....we should try to reduce that number especially by guns. Did you know that most people who attempt suicide never end up dying that way?
Why "especially by guns"? Why are you more concerned about a person who shoots his or herself over a person who hangs his or herself? Since you obviously care more about gun control than suicides, let me quote you from the link you quoted but obviously didn't read: "Suicide Attempts No complete count is kept of suicide attempts in the U.S.; however, each year the CDC gathers data from hospitals on non-fatal injuries from self-harm. 494,169 people visited a hospital for injuries due to self-harm. This number suggests that approximately 12 people harm themselves for every reported death by suicide. However, because of the way these data are collected, we are not able to distinguish intentional suicide attempts from non-intentional self-harm behaviors. Many suicide attempts, however, go unreported or untreated. Surveys suggest that at least one million people in the U.S. each year engage in intentionally inflicted self-harm. Females attempt suicide twice as often as males. As with suicide deaths, rates of attempted suicide vary considerably among demographic groups. Males are 4 times more likely than females to die by suicide. The ratio of suicide attempts to suicide death in youth is estimated to be about 25:1, compared to about 4:1 in the elderly."
Yes we should reduce all suicides. I happen to be an expert on the subject. We are talking about guns right now
Agreed! So tell me which is the most effective way to reduce suicides: gun bans or better mental health care? Secondly, which is least intrusive on the rights of all Americans and doesn't erode our Constitutional rights?
