Are people born to dislike and fear homosexuals?

There's a difference between 'answer' and peer reviewed scientific research.

 

Irrelevant. This is an anonymous discussion forum, its entertainment, not a research department, personal opinions are completely valid. If all you want is documented research, go to the library.

 

A Gay basher disguised as a scientist, complete with torch & pitchfork, what a piker, cor....

 

What may be relevant to you may be or is not to another. And that's fine. And so I posted the meaning of 'normal' that is 'relevant' for me and I'm sure for many others. So for whatever reason you think I did so is really irrelevant to me, 'stupid act' comment not withstanding. And by the way, my definition is that I simply 'excluded' your relevant meaning as it has no relevance to me. Again words can mean many different things (to different people). As often pointed out in any dictionary or other sources.

 

Notice how the disputed statement doesn't as much as even mention sexual orientation.

"The onset of puberty has nothing to do with how one is attracted to others."

 

So when you read something you don't like, instead of responding rationally you simply scream "racist! homophobe!". You are the one with the pitchfork and torch. Clearly you are untrained in logical and objective thought.

 

Actually he is in other threads. He nails it in the gun threads. In this case I wouldn't say he's illogical, rather he's being illogical in this instance.

 

how so?

 

Many people ASSUME A LOT... when they speak on homosexuality (or human sexuality in-general); a plethora of BS is frequently propagated.

Even the straightest HOMOPHOBE thinks he/she is some 'expert'. In reality, gay people are in a pretty good place to comment on what it is they are living through or have lived through.

Even so, unless the person commenting on human sexuality is reasonably within the bounds of today's scientific findings and exhibits a modicum of compassion toward those they are speaking of... it's best to be 'wary' of their opinions.

 

Amen to THAT!!!

 

As a 9 year old child, I was beaten and called Gay etc.... Little wonder I am Pro civil rights.
Even adults made rude comments because of my somewhat feminine appearance as a young boy.

 

Lots of kids are beaten and/or made funny for a whole list of reasons or even no reasons at all.

 

I am simply refering to what happened to me as a kid, not what happened to others, like so called fat kids or ugly kids.
I was singled out because I was too girly faced or a pretty boy, according to other kids and some adults.

 

Actually I believe that every act of violence has a reason behind it. Of course those who want to somehow explain away their viciousness and violent acts will often claim they 'did it for no reason'. Sorry, but that's just bulls**t Jake. Come on, for cryin' out loud! You really expect people to believe such hogwash? A 5 year-old...maybe. Right thinking (not in the political sense) adults should know better.

 

When I was young, 7 to 10 years old, some Boys did really stupid stuff, and I was flabbergasted to hear some adults excuse bad behavior by saying; oh well, Boys will be Boys !

 

This has made me think about my nastiness as a young boy. I too was bashed for being a sissy at school and by 'friends'.
Well, I wasn't really effeminate I just hated competitive sports preferring swimming and athletics which were considered in those days not to be 'real man's sports'.
When our neighbour, a retired professional boxer, saw me mangled one day and found out I'd been getting bashed at school he took me under his wings ( no, he wasn't gay but hell, at the time I sure wished he was). He taught me boxing and some elementary judo. I soon started to enjoy bashing the bashers so much I deliberately taunted them by acting like a real sissy to provoke fights.
"Yeh, mate, I'm a poofta and proud of it so what are you gunna do about it?" Soon kids from other schools heard about the poofta who bashed kids and started ganging up on me. I managed to look after myself for a while but it eventually became so dangerous my parents moved me to another school. It's only now I realise what a little s.h.i.t. I must have been but the other side of me still looks back on my 'nasty side' with enormous pride.

 

Strange, a poof here in the U.S. was always an older Gay man 50's and older, that played sugar daddy to cute younger Gay men, 19 - 20 year olds.
Only Gay men would use that term, you lousy poof they would say.
Sometimes using that term to describe a 30 - 40 year old Gay man chasing younger openly Gay males.

 

In my opinion there is a dark sadistic side to many people, particularly men, who can derive pleasure from causing suffering to others unless they exercise self control. In it's least offensive form it is the trait of laughing at someone for tripping and found in dark humor. Whether motivated by power, sadism, amorality or whatever. This trait isn't only in children. There would be the rarest possible rational or thoughtout reason to violently assault/beat a child. Rather it is sadism or blind, irrational rage.

 

I disagree, sadism isn't a trait that is inborn, it's learned and conditioned.

There may be an instinctual reason to single out the weak or the ones perceived as weak, but that isn't sadism.

 

Too many people think it's "okay" to revile people different from themselves. Those who do that aren't helping anything in this world; in fact, they are a part of promoting some of the worst problems which afflict mankind.

 

Which is EXACTLY why this society (and others) should detect and go-after those who do the beating and humiliating; there is no benefit to society in tolerating viciousness or incivility.

 

Yeah. That's terrible, for sure.

Our culture needs to change about that. No need to tolerate that kind of BS.

 

Exactly. The Regressive Left and LGBT warriors being some of the worst perpetrators of reviling those who differ. They not only revile, though, they actively fight free speech. It's very ugly.

PS: I'm an atheist liberal leftist and gay friendly, but I detest SJWs, their entitled whining, and the divisiveness of their LGBT activism. Two of the foundations of my own leftism are free speech and tolerance ... for BOTH sides of the debate. I'm not interested in behaving like the religious right.

 

No, not buying that.

I don't know who/what the "Regressive Left" is, but there is NO WAY you will convince myself and millions of others, that the LGBT have not been discriminated against and oppressed for a very long time.

That STUPID flipping of reality you are trying to pull is simply BS.

 

The above being a very good example of my point.

Your protest is legless. First of all at not point did I say these people have not been discriminated against, so you made that bit up to suit.

As regards 'flipping reality', it's because I'm more aware than average of LGBT concerns over the past half century that I've reached this position. I'm on the inside, if you will. And I know for a sad fact that privileged white college kids are the ones running the show now, and they are most definitely NOT speaking for the entirety. There are many gay people who despise gender politics, and are as we speak trying to distance themselves from this rainbow nightmare. It has effectively stolen what little voice they had. It's an oppressive imposition of someone else's bright idea, carrying the threat of demonization for failure to comply.

And the most worrying aspect of all this is that the celebrity of politics means the younger and more personally ambitious in power will agree with any and all of it if it means getting access to the throne. They're terrified of loosing the vote of the Virtue Signaller.