Are people born to dislike and fear homosexuals?

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  1. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

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    Humans often fear or at least do not trust that which they do not understand. The base nature of survival that kept us alive for many thousands of years now leads some to have bias towards those who are different because of some superficial harmless action or aspect.
     
  2. Johnny-C

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    People aren't stupid... or MOST aren't. A law need not mention a person's sexual-orientation (or other attribute) in order for it to facilitate expressions of bigotry, discrimination or oppressive power to be directed at the same.

    Get real.
     
  3. DoctorWho

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    Yes, you may not, Texas does, you cannot refuse regular services to a customer because of race, national origin, color, or sexual orientation,

    For example; I refuse to pump your gas because you are a homosexual, or refuse You restaurant's services or mechanics service or any other normal customer service because You a customer, are gay.

    Yes, you do have that "FOOLISHNESS" as you Succinctly put it in Texas and so does the other 49 States.

    Perhaps You should move to a Muslim Country so Sharia law applies and Gays are beheaded, you and your bigotry will feel right at home,
    Until they behead you for some abstract violation of law or crime against Sharia law.
     
  4. greatdanechick

    greatdanechick Well-Known Member

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    For now, this will change eventually. Texas had to add the others you listed, it's only a matter of time until sexual orientation is added.
     
  5. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Rational discussion with you is pointless on this topic. You are completely ignorant of the topic. State of Texas has no such law.

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    You really don't have a clue. "race, color, religion, or national origin" is a QUOTE from the Federal law, Texas didn't add them.
     
  6. DoctorWho

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    Yeah, Alabama tried that when the Federal Government ended school segregation, you see how well that worked out, segregation ended in spite of resistance by Neanderthals like you.

    I am rational, you are not, you can't simply turn away normal customers seeking to do normal business because they are Gay. For example; refusing to pump gas for a gay customer, refusing medical attention to a Gay patient, not legal.

    Funny; but how rational is a person arguing against Civil rights, on a forum dedicated to preserving Civil rights.
     
  7. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    You Sir are a bigot, and by nature irrational, civil discourse with an irrational person is not only impossible, it is also illogical.
     
  8. greatdanechick

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    Ok, then when federal law changes to include sexual orientation Texas will have to go along with it. My point is it's a matter of time before sexual orientation is a protected class recognized in Texas.
     
  9. dixon76710

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    ??? Odd response. What exactly in the above statement do you find to be bigoted? Or are claims o bigotry where you go when you couldn't formulate a rational response if your life depended upon it?
     
  10. dixon76710

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    Cant imagine what you are babbling on about here. Such discrimination BY THE GOVERNMENT is prohibited by the US constitution and I oppose any such discrimination. WE were talking about discrimination by private individuals that isn't prohibited by anything in the constitution.

    Nothing I say could drag you back to a grasp upon reality, but I assure you I can discriminate because they are gay, because they are ugly and their mother dressed them funny, or if I don't like the their big nose. AS LONG AS discrimination is not based upon "race, color, religion, or national origin" I am free to discriminate.
     
  11. DoctorWho

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    No, you can't.
     
  12. dixon76710

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    Feel free to point to ANY law I would be in violation of by refusing to serve gays in my business. Your personal declarations are meaningless.
     
  13. DoctorWho

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    Ever hear the following; All men are created equal....

    Bottom line, you hate homosexuals, you will use any device to further your agenda and bigotry, and it violates various codes of civil rights in the U.S. perhaps you live in some other Country or inhabit an insane corner of your own delusional warped and twisted sick little mind.
     
  14. dixon76710

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    That's not a law, but you feel free to cite even one example of anyone being prosecuted under the declaration of independence. And where is it written that I cant discriminate between those who have been crated equal.
     
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    No, its a combination of scapegoating and the desire for conformity.

    Scapegoating is the need to act out frustration and anger by blaming and punishing a group small or weak enough that it can't defend itself effectively. Sort of a trickle down theory when it comes to violence.

    The need for conformity may be somewhat in the genes, its what makes us care about what others think of us. Adversely it also makes us distrustful of people who do not seem to care, or are simply unable to conform.

    This is not about the group being homosexual. Its about it being a minority, non-conforming group.
     
  16. Junkieturtle

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    Of course people aren't born with prejudices. They are learned and encouraged through the environment a person grows up in.
     
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    People are not born with hate, they inherit it. You do not come out of the womb stating you hate someone..... You learn and acquire the trait from those that influence you the most.
     
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    I think you're a bigot for saying someone with a different ideology and preference is a bigot. Imo.


    I am sort of bisexual myself btw and I still think people should have a right to be themselves. Be it homophobic or homosexual.

    But I agree op I have seen this with some people it seems to be the case.
     
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    Many states have ordinances that do not allow you to discriminate against sexual orientation either via public accommodation laws or equal protection laws. If your business deals with housing then you would be subject to the Fair Housing Act.
     
  20. DoctorWho

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    That is NOT true, I grew up in a repressed environment and at an early age, I developed poles apart from my parents, upbringing, religious teachings, almost everything I was taught etc.....

    I was a completely unique and distinct individual by age 8.... very different from my parents, and the people around me.
     
  21. Junkieturtle

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    What isn't true? That people aren't born with prejudices or that they aren't learned through your environment?
     
  22. DoctorWho

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    Its a blanket statement and invalid on its own merit or lack thereof, there is a simple casual relationship between human behavior and environment, but not true cause and effect, I observed children that were distinct from their environment in every conceivable way.

    A simplistic hypothesis that seeks to define or explain human development simplistically and ignores the more salient aspects or implications of same and is inherently flawed and inaccurate as it is a cubby hole statement and
    convenient statement, but not clinically factual.

    I grew up in a religious right family that was also Anti Gay and Anti gun, I, at age 9 already had other well founded ideas to the contrary.
     
  23. Junkieturtle

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    Point taken, but did any of that mean what I said was wrong? I suppose I could have included a statement saying that it wasn't required that a child learn the same prejudices they are exposed to in their environment but wouldn't you agree that that is where prejudices come from when they are learned and adopted by young impressionable minds?
     
  24. DoctorWho

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    Yes, you are indeed correct.
     
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    Municipal and state laws exist protecting gay people from discrimination. state and municipal laws are indeed laws are they not?
     

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