Are revolvers the most reviled of firearms available?

Ten years of experience and training helps me along with actually doing the research. Instead of referring to the FBI and institutes dedicated to understanding criminal behavior, you guys go to those who make money off sellers of guns and ammo.

Saving Second amendment ? That’s a line propagated by the gun makers. It’s real simple. We can, do and will regulate firearms EVERYWHERE in the US to varying degrees. Constantly whining about the second amendment is totally irrelevant.

It’s scary how much fake material some here make up to support gun violence. If the NRA lines actually worked for gun violence, we would be the safest country in the world....it obviously doesn’t. Allowing guns to be sold and traded on the private open market doesn’t work, and it never has.

 

Yeah, I never cite FBI or CDC. Why do you make claims that are so easily disproved?

It should be irrelevant, but the rights protected under the Second Amendment are under continuous attack. It's not about "saving" it; the Second Amendment isn't going anywhere. The right it protects are being eroded over time by those who choose to ignore the protections.

Never has? Compare the homicide rates before 1968 to after 1968. Prohibited guns to be sold in private sales, or highly restricting them, won't stop criminal trafficking very much at all without a reduction in straw purchases, firearm registration and an easy gun transfer process.

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Do you actually know what being liberal is all about ?
It’s being open to facts and evidence and research and following the truth regardless if where it leads, that’s real science. The best science is practiced by institutes of higher learning and research facilities. It results from referencing studies done by UCLA , Harvard and Johns Hopkins, not by Guns and Ammo.

 

Yes, I know what being a liberal, and a Liberal, is all about. I read every citation of studies from UCLA, Harvard and the Bloomberg School of Public Health at Johns Hopkins. I critique those studies where the flaws are found.

If science found that by confiscating all handguns of law abiding citizens, and relying on time to reduce the number of handguns in the hands of criminals, would that give the government power to ignore any Constitutional protects to remove handguns from law abiding citizens?

 

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1968....like that’s relevant..
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/27/sta...ms-deaths-heres-how-your-state-stacks-up.html

 

Already you are fear mongering. Universal background checks isn’t “confiscating all the handguns.”

 

Two different issues. The question below is based upon your emphasis on scientific research on gun control.

If science found that by confiscating all handguns of law abiding citizens, and relying on time to reduce the number of handguns in the hands of criminals, would that give the government power to ignore any Constitutional protects to remove handguns from law abiding citizens?

 

All, your arguments are inane. Every free industrialized country has fewer gun deaths. They all have tighter gun laws.

 

Still fear mongering. Science advocates regulation, not confiscating.

 

It's a "what if", not a claim. Treat it as a hypothesis. If a scientific study found that the number of guns in the hands of law abiding citizens was directly linked to and a proven causal effect of higher homicide rates, what would this empower the government to do about this causal effect of higher homicide rates?

 

Then how do you plan to impose those tighter gun laws in the US? Science also teaches us that a univariate solution to a multivariate problem isn't always going to succeed.

 

Still “what if” fear mongering. If it’s a true scientific and valid study, YOU ACCEPT THE FACTS. That’s real science not your fake “what if” kind. If you’re into science, you should know that.
That hasn’t been the case. Its rediculous make up stuff. There have been valid studies that show permit holders are among the least likely to commit gun crimes....what does that tell you ?
It tells me, we strengthen and federalize the permit system and do everything we can to keep guns out of the hands of prohibitive owners. It’s not rocket science.....instead of trying to stop criminals with guns by good guys with guns, let’s take the guns out of the criminal hands and leave them in the hands of qualified permit holders.

 

It’s not rocket science. Other countries have both, more successful universal healthcare, gun legislation and fewer gun crimes.
With the advent of universal healthcare along with stricter universal background checks, both work together to moderate gun violence. People don’t get that a healthcare safety net and gun regulation on the criminal element work together.
Many will have to make choices in getting healthcare while giving * up their criminal behavior.... once in the healthcare system, they can easily be tracked by treatment. You can’t be getting universal treatment for diabetes and be a fugitive.

 

Only when you can paraphrase. The anti climate change crowd does the same thing with AGW , so you’re not alone.

 

Oh, you thought it was actually real for a moment and felt you had to check ? Too funny

 

Liar.

 

The ATF has demonstrated an absence of private sales is not preventing the criminal element from gaining access to firearms.

https://www.atf.gov/docs/undefined/cawebsite17183919pdf/download

Which is proving to not actually be affordable.

Mandating the use of unproven technology that cannot actually be afforded by the public.

Which is not working because those who commit the violence are ignored.

The high rates of illiteracy in the united states suggests otherwise.

Except for the ones ended before they come into being.

Yet another unproven fallacy.

 

The truth hurts. Neither the CDC nor the FBI publishes conclusions. They only publish statistics. Without publishing conclusions, the statistics are incomplete. AGW deniers do this all time. So don’t gun cultists.

 

Tell it to the city of Chicago and district of columbia that attempted to prohibit all legal handgun ownership.

 

No other country in the world has a second amendment provision, however. That is one of the primary significant differences. Another primary difference is no other country in the world, absolutely no other, has ever had anywhere near the sheer number of unregistered firearms to deal with as the united states. No other country comes close to even having five percent the total number of firearms as the united states.

 

Wow, California has the six biggest economy in the world.
Regardless of your bogus opinion, it has stricter laws and still ranks lower because of it.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/27/sta...ms-deaths-heres-how-your-state-stacks-up.html

 

Wow.......where did you learn geography. Now you don’t know the difference between a city and a state.
Do you need help ?

 

Do you mean the 2a that provides America the right to defend itself from foreign powers ?
Yes there is.

 

You'll need to be more specific. I am the NRA and I am not a criminal.

 

No, the Napoleonic Code and guilt by media rule here. "The accused stands convicted. Do you have anything to say in your defense?"