Are some US and British media outlets biased on Israel & Paelstine?

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Are some US and British media outlets biased on Israel & Paelstine?

  1. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in favour of Israel.

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  2. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in favour of Palestine.

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  3. I have no reason to believe that some US and British media outlets are biased on Israel & Paelstine.

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  4. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in either direction.

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, the NY Times is supportive of Democrats even when they are critical of Israel's crimes.
    That's something I wouldn't have expected.
    Thanks for the info.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Do you have anything to suggest otherwise?
     
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    There are media outlets on both left and right who will tell you that there is only one side to the Israel / Palestine conflict. If we are looking at major media outlets, that attitude is seen most often in conservative media. There are, of course, vast numbers of minor media outlets for every political persuasion.
     
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    Can you support that claim?
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even though the Post to which you responded is over a year old, the answer is "No", I do not have anything to support the fact that the NY Times is supportive of Democrats even when they are critical of Israel.

    However, because of the overwhelming influence of Israeli lobbies in the US, it is rare that any American politician who wants to keep their office is ever critical of Israel.
     
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    I'm thinking more of the media, which is what this thread is about. Have you noticed that the media hasn't exactly defended Israel for killing the Iranian scientist?
     
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    Your best bet if you want to observe this is to have a quick look at the opinion pieces on various websites and see, if they comment on the conflict at all, they present criticisms of both sides. If not, they act as though there is only one side to the issue.
     
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    Palestine has not existed since Israel was created in 1947.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    As in "various websites" on the left?
     
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    @Grau - The New York Times did not have the Texas Synagogue attack on their front page the day after. Do you still think that it is pro-Jewish?
     
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    i assume you're referring to "exodus", which is actually a fairly factual portrayal of israel's overstepping the un resolution, which clearly envisioned the 2 peoples living peacefully and multiculturally as they had for thousands of years. .
     
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    How the hell can they live peacefully when one side is governed by a bunch of human waste terrorists known as Hamas?
     
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    Same reason they don't report casualty rates of the nations the US bombs, and only report when US citizens, allies or soldiers are killed. It makes the one side look better than it is. This thread is about bias right? Well that's a pretty good demonstration of it. Israel while it kills Palestinians (rightly or wrongly) and holds Palestinian areas in containment wants to be seen unequivocally as the good guys, even though real cases could be made for or against that position.
     
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    and the other side uses white phosphorus on school children?
     
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    I can't take Israel as the good guys until they either grant Palestinian independence or grant all Palestinians equal citizenship within Israel. Keeping Palestinians as second class citizens isn't good.
     
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    Where do you keep your crystal ball?
    AFAIK they still are recognised as observers in the United Nations, stopped from full membership by the USA and its Jewish lobby, APAIC.
     
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    Israel?
     
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    I think it should just be shortenned to "Media outlets are biased."
     
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    What evidence is there that they don't have equal rights? And are you suggesting that Israelis have equal rights in Palestine? :roflol:
     
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    the media reports favorably on israel because that is what americans want to hear. evangelicals are 100% for israel because they consider the bible to be a property deed from their god to the jews.

    every thing that we know about the middle east : iraq, iran, weapons of mass destruction, etc etc etc is known because our own intelligence agencies have outsourced that area to mossad.

    they managed until the ottoman empire fell and zionist terrorism began.

    Zionist political violence - Wikipedia

    i can't defend hamas, because everything that i , or you, know about them is from the same media that is the subject of this thread. i will say that if some foreign government bulldozed my farm (my family's private property for generations) and gave it to a commune of illegal refugees i might be perturbed enough to join a group dedicated to eradicating same.
     
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    So that would presumably include reporting favourably on all things Jewish?
     
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    does israeli = Jewish? is a desire to treat the indigenous Palestinians humanely = anti semitism?

    i think that israel and jews are portrayed favorably in american media.

    palastinians, not so much.
     
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    Israel, the world's only Jewish State? I think that it's maybe KINDA Jewish.
     
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    Thanks for asking.

    I think that every news source has its bias and that one can best understand an issue by reading a wide variety of sources and attempting to be objective.

    To answer your question, yes I do think that the Jewish owned NY Times has an overall pro Jewish bias in spite of their placement of the Texas Synagogue attack.

    Apparently, I'm not alone in my sentiments:

    Journalists blast NY Times for pro-Israel bias and “grotesque” distortion of illegal occupation of Palestine”
    http://www.salon.com/2016/05/26/journalists_blast_ny_times_for_grotesque_pro_israel_bias_and_distortion_of_illegal_occupation_of_palestine/

    EXCERPT “The Times regularly fails to mention that the Palestinian territories have been illegally occupied by Israel since 1967. It often uses euphemistic language to describe Israel’s illegal activity, dubbing lands unlawfully seized by Israel in violation of international law “disputed” territory.

    Rights activists have been so frustrated by the publication’s skewed reporting that, in February, activists from progressive Jewish human rights groups created a very convincing-looking fake edition of the Times to protest its coverage of Israel-Palestine.” CONTINUED

    Perhaps the reason that the Texas Synagogue attack story did receive front page placement is because the only person to die was the hostage taker.
     
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    So if it was a white supremacist who did it, with no hostages killed, it would not have made the front page of the New York Times?
     
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